Tom B: could I just add one point here, re. FCR Alliance and its price? NOT an (all) aluminum frame; the Alliance technology is a sophisticated 'marriage' between full carbon t/t/seat stays/half seat tube, with alu. for head, down tubes and chain stays. I've ridden the OCR version -- it's a wonderful and VERY forgiving frame. Seriously considering one (FCR '08) myself for next year. Cheers