Originally Posted by
Bekologist
that isn't a leap in argument, it's an aside.
but thanks for pointing our other flaws in America's autocentrism, filtersweep.
john's firmly wedded to an advocacy group whose work is pro-motoring, and some of us feel is correspondingly anti-bicycling.
Exactly... in fact if John considers our pro-cycling attitude "anti-motoring," then obviously his pro-motoring attitude is just anti-cycling. So I guess "effective cycling" to John Forester is "driving."