My Club Fuji has Quad butted Valite. Why would they waste the time quad butting, when it was a lower mid range bike? Although..... The Club without wheels or bars, or even saddle, feels comparable in weight to a complete Panasonic DX4000 I picked up this last weekend. Of course the DX frame is smaller, and has 105 end to end. ,,,,BD
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