ginsoaked: Thanks for the soldering tip, never knew stainless takes it's own special stuff to work.
NoRacer: interesting... maybe they started using that after people had probs with setting up the older type? Mine are the 1st gen dura ace dual-pivots, and have flat washers. Maybe I can retro fit the convex washer to give it that adjustablity. A trip to the LBS seems in order.