Thanks again everybody and all your answers helped a bunch, the wheels are done and they are a lot better than when I got the bike. I got reading from the drive side to 25 and 26 and all the rest 19 and 20. I was a little worried about 200# on the 28 spoke wheels. I read an article in bicycle adventure that a guy kept breaking spokes on his 32 spoke wheels and was ready to buy new wheels with 36 spokes. Instead he found a guy to true his wheels and tension them and he said he never broke another one, with loaded touring. Anyhow have nice Christmas and take your new bikes for a ride and have fun.
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George