Originally Posted by
John Forester
I asserted that with respect to the Moritz studies, that was in the era when bike lanes were first installed on the streets that the planners thought were safest. I don't know about Portland, and I made no assertion regarding Portland.
rants and raves of the angry curmudgeon follows
jhon, sorry to have confused your anti-infrastructure diatribe in the Copenhagen thread. You lumped Moritz' studies into your smear of Portland. My apologies.
Your assertions that YES, some streets are safer than others is what this thread was meant to draw out. Illuminate us, john, what makes some streets safer for bicycling than others? Low speeds, low traffic, wide lanes? what makes streets less safe for bicyclists? high speeds, heavy traffic, limited sightlines, agressive motor traffic? around bars at closing time?
what do you mean when you describe 'safer' streets?
And hey, banning bikes from certain high speed cooridors if a slow speed alternative exists IS your point of view, jhon.
I simply speculate about where the slippery slope stops if you're already lobbying to ban bikes from some transportation cooridors for the benefit of motorists. just freeways? what about limited access highways?
and then it will be 50MPH roads.....