thanks 4 your reply and good wishes John. I hope its only 3 weeks, I just feel frustrated since I had just finished my first century and was looking fwd to a year of new challenges. I agree with what you say regarding the kid. But the nites I been riding there a lot of riders wear no lights and this park has specifically been created for bicycles. I'm not looking for vengeance but more for that security folks there be responsible and teach riders safety. Even the guards have no lights in their own bicycles!!!!!....I'll keep you guys up dated with the turnout if anything interesting comes out once we chat to the people in charge.