dunno if theyre still about, & it's personal pref etc... but flite ti's were superb for anyone. great profile for leaning & getting on/off the saddle, best with padded shorts but VERY comfy after about 20mins riding. it's just a perch it's not meant to get in the way too much. good on hardtails with the flexy ti rails, had mine over 5 years, only the shine has gone. no snaggy stitching, very smooth.