Originally Posted by
cyccommute
The Surly is heavier from what I've read here. Most run above 30 lbs. My T800 (an '03 version of the T2) runs around 27 lbs with out any particularly lightweight components
Mine is 36lbs with racks, fenders and a the usual accessories (no water bottles), so yeah, it's pretty heavy. The LHT's frameset is quite heavy and so are its tires. But it's a nice stable ride.