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..and the vc chestbeat and proudly proclaim "look at me, I CAN RIDE autocentric roads"


Portland has just announced an 8 percent modal share by bicyclists. And vehicular cyclists live in Portland too!

I think honolulu, oahu is a GREAT example of a community that has recognized the deluterious effects autocentric roads planning has on quality of life, cycling and pedestrian use of public rights of way.

The climate and economic hardships on the working class living in a very expensive city could just as easily explain the paltry 1.5 percent modal share on oahu as the 'education' efforts that doesn't even reach all the schools on the island, just a few thousand kids in the last few years.

insinuating educating a few thousand kids makes the difference in a LARGE american city? please. what a vacuous smokescreen.

here's a statement from Honolulu's city government and their recognizance of the failings of their community design. a 'vc' would speciously proclaim little or no remediation to the roads in honolulu is needed becasue , gosh darn it, a little education and everything just falls into place.

official statement from honolulu city government in their bike master plan.....

"One hallmark of a livable city is that its public spaces are
actively used, that it has places to walk and ride, and that
the outdoors can be enjoyed. Like many U.S. cities, Hono-
lulu has matured as a city dominated by the automobile, to
the detriment of alternative travel modes such as walking,
bicycling, and transit. Increasingly, this auto-dependence
is affecting the quality of life in our City.


While the auto provides an important means to move about
the City, increasing congestion is making it difficult, time
consuming, and expensive to use. Favorite destinations,
such as beaches, parks, shopping centers, schools, and
work places, are becoming harder to get to because of traffic
congestion and limited parking. Our streets are designed
more to accommodate the rapid flow of automobiles than
for pedestrians and bicyclists. Traffic noise and the physi-
cal barriers imposed by our streets provide those not in
autos a constant reminder of our auto-dependency.
"


Portland or honolulu, folks??

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