Originally Posted by
walee112
thank you very much. sorry guys for asking so many questions in that one post im glad you guys are picking them out one at a time and helping me out. ill try removing the steering tube and see if i have a hole there... anyone know the answer to how i'll be able to get the guides out from within my frame though?
Well, IF you have concluded that there is indeed a cable sleeve loose in your downtube, and you wind up finding a hole in your headtube/downtube joint, then shake the frame 'til the sleeve comes into the headtube through the hole. Get some long needlenose pliers, tweezers, parts grabber, hemos, tongs, chopsticks, etc and pull it out.
Otherwise try to shake it out through the little hole down by the bottom bracket.
OR, if still no joy, perhaps the Downtube/BB shell joint has a hole, then you can remove your BB and try to yank it outta there.