dude "junkyard"... I was just looking for a "protective" (if saying that floats your boat) helmet that looks okay, and keeps my head cool. Iv'e read studies that show that all helmets have basically equal protection- don't you dare go yap off at me. That makes it not a factor. So I'm not shoveling out the extra change for some carbon weave glued on, and S.O.S. Okay man, don't get your bibs in a knot. When 10 people are saying that you are wrong... chances are you are (and you are). Don't try to pick a fight and be a jerk, man. Thanks for the help- if you really want to give some other than "Win the Lotto and get that Giro Atmos" that would be cool too. Your comments sure racked up the replies on this thread.