I've lived in Seattle and Portland areas my whole life and if you want to ride year round it sucks, not too mention the weather freakin blows and is depressing and the women are just as dull,, the lack of sunshine is near debillatating, I try to stay in shape through the winter but every track season I feel like I'm starting over... there's plenty of fixsters in both towns but the track scenes are kinda weak and yuppie,, I've been getting ready to move to norcal so I can ride road year round and travel to race track in the summers,,