genec

Do ya really think a cowbell would help at all... I mean honestly.

genec

OK fair enough... another poster suggested telling the bus driver you would be removing a bike before you step off... bottom line... I think that any and all possible connections between you and the driver should be made to ensure that said driver doesn't hit the accelerator.

I-Like-To-Bike

About as helpful as hysterical over-reactive "solutions" to an isolated incident (or hypothetical/imaginary accidents) such as horn blowing before moving, windshield tapping, and fancy-dancy interlock mechanisms proposed on A&S are helpful suggestions.

genec

I agree with you on everything but the windshield tapping... if that driver is off in la la land and not paying attention, seems to me a tap on the windshield might be quite appropriate to wake 'em up before they roll off on you. I've done much the same for motorists with their head stuck in the left position (as they are about to make a right on red...) just as I was about to cross the street.

Look, it isn't a perfect world out there... sometimes that means waking up zombie drivers.

CliffordK

It would be interesting to see how school buses have morphed over the years.

Red lights
Red + Yellow Lights
Red + Yellow Lights + Stop sign and stick that sticks across the road.
Stopping and opening the door and window at every RR crossing.
(and that white light on top?)

Do they have seat belts yet, or is it still considered safer for the kids to bounce around the seats?

Undoubtedly these regulations come from either accidents, or near misses, or perhaps people sitting around brainstorming on how to spend more public money.

Of course, people entrust their kids to the school district from the moment they leave the door (or get on the bus), to the moment they come running back home.

Oddly, most of this hasn't made its way into the public transit buses (thankfully, it could be a huge disruption).

I-Like-To-Bike

Windshield tapping when the affected bus driver is observed not paying attention = OK.

Window or hood tapping as a matter of course every time a person walks in front of a stopped bus = obnoxious behavior likely to lead to unintended bad results.

genec

Wouldn't do it every time and wouldn't recommend it anyway... tends to upset the zombies.

But if ya gotta wake em, ya gotta do something. I think we're pretty much on the same page.

I think the best behavior in this particular case is telling the driver you have to remove your bike... and then being observant for a change in conditions.

howsteepisit

Here in Eugene, the instructions to users of the on-front-of-bus bike rack is to notify the driver when you get off that you will be removing your bike from the rack. Seems to work just fine.

asmac

Wow! A rare agreement. Maybe we should quit while we're ahead.

JonnyHK 

Just a question that I'm not sure I've seen an answer to...

Did the driver run over a person standing clear in front without looking,
OR
Did the driver run over a person who was stepping in front to get their bike just as the driver committed to moving away?



Option 1 is the driver being a complete bonehead.
Option 2 is very bad timing creating a terrible outcome.

mr_bill

Only update so far....

-mr. bill

unterhausen

can someone that views the video give us the executive summary?

CliffordK

It has been years since I've been on a bus in Eugene.

However, I noticed that the new EMX buses don't have a bike rack in front. They are a double-length articulated bus, and apparently one just takes the bike onto the bus.



My guess is that it not only helps with safety, but it is quicker to just carry the bike onto the bus than to fiddle with the rack, then board the bus.

hotbike

A lot of new buses have "Low floor" configuration , which means there are No steps...