mconlonx

It is certainly pertinent and relevant considering who I quoted and what was said, in context with that member's posts in P&R. It taints the flavor of his comment here.

You'll note I did not claim in this thread that the Strava record would have any legal relevance, only that it might be used against a cyclist. As the New York Post noted:

Essex

Are you a lawyer? And are you kidding me? Have you spent any time in litigation/court? You're blowing smoke like Absolem.

mr_bill

Bike Snob NYC pretty much nails this. I'm supposed to put NSFW here because he uses a naughty word derived from a germanic word for procreation, and other equally horrifying words.

-mr. bill

kickstart

Media for entertainment being sleazy and hypocritical........whats the debate, isn't that a given? The cyclist? I don't know, but if I was involved in a fatality incident. I would be riding on egg shells.
Guess it takes all kinds to populate this world.

baron von trail 

Some people have no empathy and only think of themselves. After all, he survived the crash. So, it's all good. Our cyclist here may just be one of those people.

I-Like-To-Bike

+1

baron von trail 

Nice writing style. The guy knows how to create a fun read.

Essex

I read a little bit of Bike Snob and his assertions that "it's a park." Man that rings hollow. The guy also states without much credibility that the exact circumstances are unknown. Unknown? This guy is wearing blinders.

I can provide perspective - the Harlem rider killed a woman. A mother. An educated person and wife. It also points to the fact that the rider was going fast enough to cause fatal injuries. Additionally, the deceased was no little granny on a walker who would tip over and die. So, it points to a number of things related to high velocity and probably recklessness. Since I live near Central Park I often see roadies blitzing/weaving in between people in a reckless manner. The park's road (shared with all manner of walkers, cars, golf carts, horses and dogs) is not an ideal place to practice your sprint to the finish. On busy weekends I often see the EMS truck racing to some accident site. As per me - I ride a slow, fat balloon tire bike and I often ride less-traveled routes in NYC because I don't want to hit someone, or get hit. Either are easy enough to do.

While I am no fan of Rupert Murdoch rags - they are performing a small public service by trailing this guy. When it comes time for court the lawyers will use this information to show that this rider disdains cycling laws. And for I - Like -Bike this is what lawyers do. They attack credibility and these photos / narratives do that sufficiently. While some may consider blowing through a red light trivial....a jury may see it differently as a legal violation. Having your kid on handlebars won't win points either.

Last bit - and I repeat - if I hurt someone seriously I would not be riding a bicycle anymore.

I-Like-To-Bike

No doubt the "lawyers" will also try to introduce YOUR A&S perspective, "I often see roadies blitzing/weaving in between people in a reckless manner. The park's road (shared with all manner of walkers, cars, golf carts, horses and dogs) is not an ideal place to practice your sprint to the finish. On busy weekends I often see the EMS truck racing to some accident site" as further evidence of what happened at the accident scene that killed the woman. Maybe even try to introduce your comments about fatal injuries are proof of reckless speeding as real deal forensic/legal evidence.

And maybe the defense lawyers will be sleeping, and the judge will be from the A&S School of Lynch Mob Justice and information/BS totally irrelevant to the fatal accident will be allowed to be introduced as evidence to inflame the emotions of the jury.

mr_bill

NSFW - Bike Snob NYC and Central Park. "It's a Park."

-mr. bill

Essex

What's pretty clear to me is you haven't spent any amount of time in a court of law where litigating attorneys work angles. Your hilarious, and repetitive "lynch mob" mentality/quotes doesn't address the fact the rider who killed the lady is riding around and still cutting red lights. These behavior doesn't show a judge or jury contriteness, or a change of behaviors on a bike. And I am sure legal teams have collected forensic evidence already. You just haven't seen them in the "internets."

I-Like-To-Bike

"Contriteness, or a change of behaviors" after the accident is, like NY Post headlines and A&S bloviating, totally irrelevant in the determining of guilt or a finding of fault. The defendant's after accident behavior/attitude may perhaps be considered in sentencing/determination of penalty IF a guilty or at fault determination is made by judge/jury after examining evidence relevant to the events at the specific scene of the specific accident.

Essex

Do you actually believe what you say? No point in discussing this with someone who has not spent time in litigation.

I-Like-To-Bike

Was your "time in litigation" a divorce court with irate spouses waving newspaper headlines?

Essex

While your comment is patently insulting - it is funny. Sorry to say I do not live in a polygamous state, or country.

CB HI

Since you claim to have "spent time in litigation", then you should know that you should get your facts straight before the judge gets seriously pissed at your false claims.

There has been no established fact as to how fast the cyclist was traveling at the time of collision or how fast the pedestrian was traveling that I have seen. Please post your proof.

Did you even look at the video in the rag article. The cyclist did not blow the red as claimed. That false fact of yours has even been pointed out before you claimed it.

Even the rag article did not claim the kid was riding on the handlebars. The kid was on a legal top tube seat with hand grips.

The next time I "spent time in litigation", I hope you are on the opposing team, should be an easy win for my side.

vol

Almost two months now but I still haven't found any news of catching the hit-and-run driver in a stolen car that killed the neurologist.