kickstart

I've ridden in many places, and have always been universally ignored by law enforcement. I suspect those who feel "in so many cities the police lie in wait to hand out tickets to cyclists for infractions for rules that make sense for cars but not much for bikes." are just blaming the law for their own issues.

kickstart

Yes, but Seattle, despite what some residents may think, doesn't represent the whole state , and FRAP/S still makes sense outside the city limits.

Rode the open part of the cycle track on Mercer, that's going to be sweet when finished.

daihard 

Just to be sure, the FRAP/S law in Washington State states, "Every person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at a rate of speed less than the normal flow of traffic at the particular time and place shall ride as near to the right side of the right through lane as is safe." It means that (1) if you can keep up with the flow of traffic (due to a traffic jam, for instance) or (2) if you find it unsafe to ride on the right side of the street, then you are legally allowed to take the full lane.

Yes, the cycle track on Mercer is a welcome addition, though I'd prefer an individual one-way track in each direction.

genec

You are allowed to yield at stop signs and stop and go at red lights. Back around the time I learned to drive, there was no right on red law where I lived... it came later, and in my lifetime... traffic laws change all the time. Heck there used to be national 55 MPH speed limit... change happens.

I-Like-To-Bike

Our cycling experiences are in sync, and we are in agreement on this subject. Also anybody who actually believes he is some kind of unique Big Bad Cyclist Warrior because he doesn't wait around when the traffic is clear at intersections is only fooling himself.

kickstart

I understand, my point was the practical application as you described.

I too prefer individual one-way tracks, but it makes sense in how it will eventually tie in with other segments. It will almost be something like a bicycle highway.......wounder if there will be bicycle traffic jams some day.

kickstart

Yes, I over simplified my statement as it was specifically about stop lights.
I expect and support some changes such as Idaho stops that allow treating stop signs as yields, and stop lights as stop signs, but don't expect or support legal running/blowing/shooting the gap of stop lights.

All this really makes me appreciate the new trend here in washington of using traffic circles rather than signals when space allows.