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Old 08-24-15, 10:29 AM
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Cyclist dies from a head-on collision with another cyclist

Jacques-Cartier Bridge bike path crash kills 1 - Montreal - CBC News

I was on this bridge on my bike yesterday. Yikes. They even have barriers that you have to maneuver around to prevent you from going too fast. Seems you can never be too careful even when you're in a protected bike lane.
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Neither cyclist was wearing a helmet.
Not surprised at the above statement in the article. Does that city have a helmet law?
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Horrible. At 4 AM I wonder if one or both were impaired.

I have more close calls per mile with other cyclists on MUPs than with cars on urban streets. Typical issues are speed (especially with other users present), passing when imprudent, not understanding the rules of road (i.e. travel to the right, pass on the left, peds and horses have ROW), and general lack of awareness.
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I saw this early this morning and wondered how long it would take before someone posted a link. This has to be one of the rarest types of cycling deaths. I have experienced a head on collision on a bike path more than once, once with another cyclist( who wasn't wearing a helmet) and once with an electric scooter. Both times it was the other rider who had swerved over onto my side of the path. The cyclist rammed me with his head, I had a huge bruise on the left side of my chest and he had a bad concussion. I was luckier with the scooter rider,I had time to cross my arms in front of my chest and knock him off his scooter. Bicycle paths are tricky, there are lots of people on them who do not pay attention to what is ahead
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This is why I stay off MUPs. MUPs are only about a 1/4 the width of a garage door. Some cyclists' treat it like their Indianapolis 500. I have had suddenly slow down even more, than I already was. They are too dangerous.

That is another reason why I 'take the lane' on the road. So, Just like a MUP, I don't get sandwiched.
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Originally Posted by Chris516
This is why I stay off MUPs. MUPs are only about a 1/4 the width of a garage door. Some cyclists' treat it like their Indianapolis 500. I have had suddenly slow down even more, than I already was. They are too dangerous.

That is another reason why I 'take the lane' on the road. So, Just like a MUP, I don't get sandwiched.
The section of path where this happened is quite wide, plenty of space for cyclists to pass each other safely. In this case, it sounds very much as if someone wasn't where they were supposed to be. This past weekend I encountered something similar on a bike path. I looked ahead and there was a cyclist ahead of me riding on my side of the path. As I approached he moved farther and farther to his left onto my side of the path. Finally he stopped hugging the right side of the path in front of me.As I passed I motioned that he should have been on his side of the path.He didn't seem to have any idea that what he was doing was dangerous as he looked at me, mouth gaping open. This also happened on a bridge incidentally
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Originally Posted by Chris516
This is why I stay off MUPs. MUPs are only about a 1/4 the width of a garage door. Some cyclists' treat it like their Indianapolis 500. I have had suddenly slow down even more, than I already was. They are too dangerous.

That is another reason why I 'take the lane' on the road. So, Just like a MUP, I don't get sandwiched.
Death, taxes, and now...........Chris516 posting "another reason why I take the lane"..............
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We had one here on the bike path last summer.


Area doctor dies 1 month after bike trail crash | Dayton, OH News | www.whio.com
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Originally Posted by LGHT
Not surprised at the above statement in the article. Does that city have a helmet law?
Why? Do you know something about the injuries of the deceased that hasn't been reported? What caused his death?
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Originally Posted by alcjphil
I saw this early this morning and wondered how long it would take before someone posted a link. This has to be one of the rarest types of cycling deaths. I have experienced a head on collision on a bike path more than once, once with another cyclist( who wasn't wearing a helmet) and once with an electric scooter. Both times it was the other rider who had swerved over onto my side of the path. The cyclist rammed me with his head, I had a huge bruise on the left side of my chest and he had a bad concussion. I was luckier with the scooter rider,I had time to cross my arms in front of my chest and knock him off his scooter. Bicycle paths are tricky, there are lots of people on them who do not pay attention to what is ahead
I posted because it gave me a wake-up call. Rare or not (just like the dude who was struck by lightening on his bike in Montreal a few weeks ago), these things do happen and cyclists, IMO, need to sometimes be reminded that it's not just motor vehicles that can kill us. There have been a few times in the last couple weeks where I have thought to myself that I am going WAY too fast and it's probably not safe. Also, while I was on that bridge just yesterday I had a few cyclists pass me where I thought 'whoa, that was close.' There is not a whole lot of room to maneuver on the bridge. There is no grass off to the side, for example, to escape to. I completely agree with you though that there are many ppl on the bike paths here that have no ****ing clue what they are doing and are putting others in danger.
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Originally Posted by alcjphil
The section of path where this happened is quite wide, plenty of space for cyclists to pass each other safely. In this case, it sounds very much as if someone wasn't where they were supposed to be. This past weekend I encountered something similar on a bike path. I looked ahead and there was a cyclist ahead of me riding on my side of the path. As I approached he moved farther and farther to his left onto my side of the path. Finally he stopped hugging the right side of the path in front of me.As I passed I motioned that he should have been on his side of the path.He didn't seem to have any idea that what he was doing was dangerous as he looked at me, mouth gaping open. This also happened on a bridge incidentally
I am glad you didn't have a similar accident.
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Death, taxes, and now...........Chris516 posting "another reason why I take the lane"..............
Yes, Another reason why I 'take the lane'. Whether you like it, or not.
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Originally Posted by Chris516
This is why I stay off MUPs. MUPs are only about a 1/4 the width of a garage door. Some cyclists' treat it like their Indianapolis 500. I have had suddenly slow down even more, than I already was. They are too dangerous.

That is another reason why I 'take the lane' on the road. So, Just like a MUP, I don't get sandwiched.
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Originally Posted by LGHT
Not surprised at the above statement in the article. Does that city have a helmet law?
Seems like lights would be a more crucial safety device than helmets. But the lack of helmets is interesting.
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Originally Posted by Chris516
Yes, Another reason why I 'take the lane'. Whether you like it, or not.
I don't care what you do, but constantly posting it has become a running joke. A joke that very often lacks value, content, or perspective.
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Originally Posted by Chris516
MUPs are only about a 1/4 the width of a garage door.
Dang! So like a garage door is like 40' wide, cuz there is an MUP in my area that is 10' wide in places.
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"A spokesperson for the Sûreté du Québec said on Monday that neither speed nor alcohol were initially suspected to be factors in the accident on the bridge, but that an investigation is ongoing. The spokesperson did not know whether the cyclists had lights on their bikes."

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Originally Posted by LoriRose
I posted because it gave me a wake-up call. Rare or not (just like the dude who was struck by lightening on his bike in Montreal a few weeks ago), these things do happen and cyclists, IMO, need to sometimes be reminded that it's not just motor vehicles that can kill us. There have been a few times in the last couple weeks where I have thought to myself that I am going WAY too fast and it's probably not safe. Also, while I was on that bridge just yesterday I had a few cyclists pass me where I thought 'whoa, that was close.' There is not a whole lot of room to maneuver on the bridge. There is no grass off to the side, for example, to escape to. I completely agree with you though that there are many ppl on the bike paths here that have no ****ing clue what they are doing and are putting others in danger.
Yup, time after time when bombing down some huge highway hill it would occur to me that all it would take is one small rock in the wrong place and I would be airbourn.

Funny thing is it did happen on an MUP when I was moving slow and hit a child's broken bead necklace scattered near a turn.

But bottom line, cyclists are killed more often by automobiles than any other cause.
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The picture from the above link shows a turn area. Not sure if that's the exact accident spot, but if it was, the curve could have played a part in blocking both cyclists' views.

(For another rare bike related accident: cyclist's bike handlebar impaled a jogger's hand on NYC's Hudson Greenway)

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Originally Posted by genec

But bottom line, cyclists are killed more often by automobiles than any other cause.
Right, but cyclists are at fault sometimes too. Just because we are more vulnerable doesn't give us a free pass to be reckless.

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The picture from the above link shows a turn area. Not sure if that's the exact accident spot, but if it was, the curve could have played a part in blocking both cyclists' views.
You are absolutely right, there are a few blind curves at points where one can easily have been going quite fast. And yes, that is where the accident occurred.
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That is why at night a be-seen front light is not enough. It's important to use a front light that has a beam which will light up the area in front of you, especially at intersections and blind curves.
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