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    Open Season on Aggressive Florida Motorists

    The Florida State Senate passed SB 436, which allows bicyclists to shoot and kill motorists who approach in any threatening fashion, without criminal penalties.

    http://www.flsenate.gov/cgi-bin/view...sion&Submenu=1
    Given the majority's ruling, the only safe bicycle in Illinois is a stationary exercise bike located in one's home or at the gym. ----Illinois State Supreme Court, Boub V Wayne

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    Quote Originally Posted by barenakedbiker
    The Florida State Senate passed SB 436, which allows bicyclists to shoot and kill motorists who approach in any threatening fashion, without criminal penalties.

    http://www.flsenate.gov/cgi-bin/view...sion&Submenu=1

    Looks like that could go either way... "...well that big mean bicycle guy was trying to get into my SUV... look what he did to the windshield... so I shot him... "

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    Quote Originally Posted by genec
    Looks like that could go either way... "...well that big mean bicycle guy was trying to get into my SUV... look what he did to the windshield... so I shot him... "
    This could be fun!
    Given the majority's ruling, the only safe bicycle in Illinois is a stationary exercise bike located in one's home or at the gym. ----Illinois State Supreme Court, Boub V Wayne

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    Quote Originally Posted by barenakedbiker
    The Florida State Senate passed SB 436, which allows bicyclists to shoot and kill motorists who approach in any threatening fashion, without criminal penalties.

    http://www.flsenate.gov/cgi-bin/view...sion&Submenu=1
    Yippee! I can't wait to bag my first motorist with my Glock 19!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by skydive69
    Yippee! I can't wait to bag my first motorist with my Glock 19!!
    Make my day, baby!
    Given the majority's ruling, the only safe bicycle in Illinois is a stationary exercise bike located in one's home or at the gym. ----Illinois State Supreme Court, Boub V Wayne

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    The reality is this bill will create a lot of problems.
    Given the majority's ruling, the only safe bicycle in Illinois is a stationary exercise bike located in one's home or at the gym. ----Illinois State Supreme Court, Boub V Wayne

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    Quote Originally Posted by barenakedbiker
    The reality is this bill will create a lot of problems.
    Yes, making appointments at the taxidermist to get your motorist trophies mounted! I'd like to bag one of each race and gender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skydive69
    Yes, making appointments at the taxidermist to get your motorist trophies mounted! I'd like to bag one of each race and gender.
    I feel a national headline coming from wherever you are in FL. Good grief.
    Given the majority's ruling, the only safe bicycle in Illinois is a stationary exercise bike located in one's home or at the gym. ----Illinois State Supreme Court, Boub V Wayne

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    The bill is actually doing the opposite of its intentions. It will encourage shootouts.
    Given the majority's ruling, the only safe bicycle in Illinois is a stationary exercise bike located in one's home or at the gym. ----Illinois State Supreme Court, Boub V Wayne

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    Ugh. This is one of the worst laws I've ever seen. "Florida: The Rules Are Different Here."

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    Wow this is the first I've heard of this.
    I guess it would be considered self-defense, but it's a little extreme.
    I can't believe it passed.

    That said, anyone know a good ****** that is small enough to fit in a jersey pocket?
    I'm kidding of course....
    Leave your treadmill power trip behind.

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    Read the wording of the bill again. If someone INSIDE a dwelling, residence, or vehicle, determines that their life is in danger, it allows them to use deadly force without fear of being arrested. The last part of the bill allows police to go after people they think abused the law on purpose.
    It does not allow cyclists on the road to have an open season on motorists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dchiefransom
    Read the wording of the bill again. If someone INSIDE a dwelling, residence, or vehicle, determines that their life is in danger, it allows them to use deadly force without fear of being arrested. The last part of the bill allows police to go after people they think abused the law on purpose.
    It does not allow cyclists on the road to have an open season on motorists.
    The bill says you can use deadly force against someone "if that person had removed or attempted to remove another from the dwelling, residence, or vehicle."

    I would say that a car threatening a bike fits the definition of attempting to remove from a vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCCommuter
    The bill says you can use deadly force against someone "if that person had removed or attempted to remove another from the dwelling, residence, or vehicle."

    I would say that a car threatening a bike fits the definition of attempting to remove from a vehicle.
    The bill refers to the "Castle Doctrine", meaning the person using defensive force has to be INSIDE a vehicle. Cyclists are not INSIDE their vehicle, so the regular rules regarding assault on a person "outside"
    would be used.

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    Let the fun begin...But, don't motorists have a better chance of aiming at the cyclists..Might be important to get the right handlebar bag....A holster might not get in the way of pedaling....baggies might be in order.. Sure Mae West would have something to say about guns under your shorts.

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    Big deal. In Texas we have long been permitted deadly force to protect yourself and others. We call it self defense. Glad to see the concept catching on.

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    Motorists have a better chance at correct aim..Heck cyclists can't even get a camera out in time to photograph our atackers..From reading the law..A motorists could claim the cyclists was the one threatening them.

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    i love riding and enjoy a bike lane where i live. but on many ocasions as a driver i have witnessed cyclist egging on motorist and encouraging confrontations. unfurtunatley these few ego maniacs give motorist the wrong impression of the rest of the pack

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    Quote Originally Posted by barenakedbiker
    I feel a national headline coming from wherever you are in FL. Good grief.
    Yes, I can see it now:

    FLORIDA CYCLIST TO TOUR THE COUNTRY DISPLAYING HIS COLLECTION OF MOUNTED MOTORIST HEADS

    It will be the talk of the nation. I will probably be on Oprah and Jerry! People will start sending me ammunition to replenish my ever dwindling supply! People will donate money to me so I can build more rooms on to my house to display my collection. I can see it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barenakedbiker
    The reality is this bill will create a lot of problems.
    There are laws like this in other states. Do you have evidence that they caused problems there?

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    The stupid passing laws

    The ignorant ranting about how noble it is to kill

    Ah yes, the good ole American frontier days returning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dchiefransom
    Cyclists are not INSIDE their vehicle, so the regular rules regarding assault on a person "outside" would be used.

    "Vehicle" means any conveyance of any kind, whether or not motorized, which is designed to transport people or property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travelinguyrt
    Ah yes, the good ole American frontier days returning
    Not exactly. Read up on your history not a Hollywood movie. In the "wild west" there was actually very little *** play. And per capita crime was low.
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    I didn't think Floridians could top thier voting performance in '00.

    Then I though they couldn't top Terri Schiavo.

    I keep moving the bar and they keep exceeding expectations.
    This is Africa, 1943. War spits out its violence overhead and the sandy graveyard swallows it up. Her name is King Nine, B-25, medium bomber, Twelfth Air Force. On a hot, still morning she took off from Tunisia to bomb the southern tip of Italy. An errant piece of flak tore a hole in a wing tank and, like a wounded bird, this is where she landed, not to return on this day, or any other day.

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    GET OUT OF THE BIKE LANE!!!!

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