Cyclist Bangs on Off-Duty Cop's SUV....
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I find it far more disturbing that so many people have surrendered their judgment to the media than the fact there's a few bad cops.
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A tiny % of our country's police officers may be corrupt or bad but a gigantic % of our country's lawyers are arrogant jerks.
I like the way this one played out.
If you bang on a strangers car with your fist for no other reason than to try and make a point you better be prepared for some repercussions.
A lot of other people would have got out of their car and escalated it into serious violence.
It makes me smile just thinking how the tough guy car thumping lawyer must have been squeeking like a little girl once he was put in his place by the officer
I like the way this one played out.
If you bang on a strangers car with your fist for no other reason than to try and make a point you better be prepared for some repercussions.
A lot of other people would have got out of their car and escalated it into serious violence.
It makes me smile just thinking how the tough guy car thumping lawyer must have been squeeking like a little girl once he was put in his place by the officer
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Malarkey you say. Have you ever seen a uniformed officer come to a department/precinct, in their uniform and police cruiser? That had not started their 'shift'? But was already in their police uniform when they got to the station? I certainly haven't. I have seen plenty of uniformed officers', allowed to take their police cruiser to their home. But none in their uniform off-shift. There is even one officer for a local city police department who takes his/her squad car to their home. I haven't followed them. Their apartment/condo is within feet of a 7Eleven and it is obvious the way I have seen them park on multiple occasions. That they are not there(repeatedly) for a domestic call or crime scene after crime scene.
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Malarkey you say. Have you ever seen a uniformed officer come to a department/precinct, in their uniform and police cruiser? That had not started their 'shift'? But was already in their police uniform when they got to the station? I certainly haven't. I have seen plenty of uniformed officers', allowed to take their police cruiser to their home. But none in their uniform off-shift. There is even one officer for a local city police department who takes his/her squad car to their home. I haven't followed them. Their apartment/condo is within feet of a 7Eleven and it is obvious the way I have seen them park on multiple occasions. That they are not there(repeatedly) for a domestic call or crime scene after crime scene.
Are you a police officer?
Or are you just hanging around police stations checking out cops apparel while assuming you somehow know when they punched in or out?
That's kinda creepy no offense.
And why do you think you know where they live?
Weird...
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Some municipalities encourage police officers to drive the police cars home. I think it is a way to amplify the appearance of police presence in the neighborhoods.
Other communities seem to try to hide the information about individual officers.
Other communities seem to try to hide the information about individual officers.
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Rather than knocking on cars, I've always thought a paint gun would be appropriate to inform drivers of their driving errors and your dissatisfaction with them. Just blast a dozen shots across the vehicle.
(of course, I've never done it, and wouldn't recommend taking anger or frustration out on other people's property).
(of course, I've never done it, and wouldn't recommend taking anger or frustration out on other people's property).
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If what we read is correct - the cop was wrong, and should be held accountable......
It's easy to teach a smart cop to be tough: but, not so easy to teach a tough cop to be smart.
It appears this guy is in the second category.
It's easy to teach a smart cop to be tough: but, not so easy to teach a tough cop to be smart.
It appears this guy is in the second category.
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Reminds me - a few weeks ago I was cut off and nearly run off the road by a school bus (twice). I've filed a formal complaint with the school dept and the police. Was interviewed by the police, but I've heard nothing since.
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Update: The school bus driver was fired.
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A few years ago a lot of school buses were just skimming past me. It seems to me that as time goes on, they're giving me more space. Perhaps more of them are seeing me on the road.
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I am not privileged to that information, but most, I think, would infer from the conversation that there were 'issues'. In any case, the expectation of school bus drivers is that they have a very high safety standard. IMO, this was such an egregious violation of that standard, especially when done a second time, as to be worthy of immediate termination.
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Another thought does come to mind. If the officer was really off-duty. Then why did he have a pair of handcuffs on his person. Because, Police officers don't keep their gunbelt on that has their handcuffs(uniformed-only), or keep their handcuffs(plainclothes) on their person. When they are off-duty. They have to turn that in before they leave the station.
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Regardless of the off-duty officer's temperament, morality, judgment, or restraint. Off-duty officers' don't carry a pair of handcuffs. Which makes me wonder if the 'said' officer. Was actually an officer in the first place.
Genuine officer, or not. I definitely agree that the officer was being a bully.
Genuine officer, or not. I definitely agree that the officer was being a bully.
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A tiny % of our country's police officers may be corrupt or bad but a gigantic % of our country's lawyers are arrogant jerks.
I like the way this one played out.
If you bang on a strangers car with your fist for no other reason than to try and make a point you better be prepared for some repercussions.
A lot of other people would have got out of their car and escalated it into serious violence.
It makes me smile just thinking how the tough guy car thumping lawyer must have been squeeking like a little girl once he was put in his place by the officer
I like the way this one played out.
If you bang on a strangers car with your fist for no other reason than to try and make a point you better be prepared for some repercussions.
A lot of other people would have got out of their car and escalated it into serious violence.
It makes me smile just thinking how the tough guy car thumping lawyer must have been squeeking like a little girl once he was put in his place by the officer
Originally Posted by Chris516
Another thought does come to mind. If the officer was really off-duty. Then why did he have a pair of handcuffs on his person. Because, Police officers don't keep their gunbelt on that has their handcuffs(uniformed-only), or keep their handcuffs(plainclothes) on their person. When they are off-duty. They have to turn that in before they leave the station.
"But before he could turn left, the SUV switched lanes, cutting Liu off. Then, the off-duty officer got out of the SUV, Liu said. The officer, who was in uniform, directed Liu to put his hands on the SUV, then handcuffed him, the cyclist said."
I wonder if said lawyer noticed the uniform before hand. At any rate a uniformed officer will always have cuffs
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The article clearly states there was a witness who saw the suv swerving and coming very close to a cyclist.... Doesn't that make the slaps self defense?
The bias here about cops is all yours IMO
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If one is close enough to slap a vehicle, their efforts would be better utilized braking or maneuvering to get away from them if they were an actual threat.
A lifetime of personal experience riding bikes and motorcycles, and the given account of the incident leads me to believe it was retaliatory for a perceived slight, rather than a defensive reflex.
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And I would counter that it was BOTH. I've been in similar situations and done the same thing. Sometimes there isn't much of anywhere to go when your cut off in a bike lane. Just braking or trying to get out of his way doesn't let him know he almost killed you, which is pretty important as well.
Cops are out of control, they really need to improve the screening process prior to employment and require that these people entrusted with so much power wear multiple action cams at all times.
Cops are out of control, they really need to improve the screening process prior to employment and require that these people entrusted with so much power wear multiple action cams at all times.
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There's n o denying that this incident involves 2 idiots who clearly deserve each other. I won't defend the decision to slap the car, but that in no way justifies the officer's abuse of his authority in over reacting the way that he did.
This should have ended in the classic shouting match before both moved on with their lives.
Those who feel that an arrest was appropriate under the circumstances should ask themselves what would have happened if the incident involved a civilian instead of an off duty cop. Nonsense like this rarely, if ever leads to arrests, and this one shouldn't have either.
This should have ended in the classic shouting match before both moved on with their lives.
Those who feel that an arrest was appropriate under the circumstances should ask themselves what would have happened if the incident involved a civilian instead of an off duty cop. Nonsense like this rarely, if ever leads to arrests, and this one shouldn't have either.
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