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Old 11-03-15, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by FBinNY
yes, there's a complicated and mixed history relating to how bicycle paths became MUPs. I'm sure there's all kinds of things that went on depending on location and time in history. We had a nice dedicated bike path built with CETA funds during the Carter administration. Over the years most sections became an MUP simply by attrition as pedestrians discovered it. I never figured out if they repurposed it at some time, or pedestrians simply moved in.

The reality is that nice urban park space where you can enjoy a scenic stroll is scarce, so regardless of intent, if you pave a nice path, people will find it, and adopt it as a their own. As cyclists, we can be angry, or resigned, but the pedestrians aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
I certainly wish we could get more pleasant places to walk in our cities, in part out of my desire to dilute some of the pedestrian mass on the bike paths. I guess NYC has that elevated thing that looks nice. My city has bike paths along the river and a nice ridgeline trail to walk on, but no decent connections between them, so people drive to one, the other or both to have a nice walk. It would be almost trivial to create a nice corridor, but would require cooperation between city departments and thus isn't going to happen. I suspect this happens elsewhere as well.

In the end, the peds are on the bike paths and that isn't likely to change. They shouldn't be difficult to deal with, after all they are just cyclists who are missing their bikes. Up at the University of Washington, they have closed a major bike path for the next few months in order to rebuild it to a much wider standard so it can better handle the mix of cyclists and pedestrians. Maybe that is the solution: eighteen-foot wide bike paths.
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Originally Posted by rydabent
IMO some drivers and some cyclist are just alike. Some drivers think that cyclist should not be on their roads and streets. Some cycist whine about walkers and slow cyclist on MUPS. Really is there any difference between the two of them, and their attitude?
Not really. Except for the pecking order. As in, the size of one's mode of 'transport'.
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Why I never take drivers' arguments against cyclists seriously

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I thought that was a pretty good diagram. It's probably accurate.
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
ring a bicycle bell or a bulb bicycle horn (not an offensive air horn blaster). I've found they work just fine on MUPs in Philadelphia and even in light traffic. Always brings a smile too.
One of my most valued accessories is a bell with a lovely ding! Ringing the bell is much more pleasant than repeatedly yelling "on yer left!" I wish more cyclists would use them.
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