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  • On the road, speed limits 45 mph. or above

    14 24.56%
  • On the road, speed limits 35 mph. or above

    6 10.53%
  • On the road, speed limits 25 mph. or above

    5 8.77%
  • On the path, sidewalk design

    1 1.75%
  • On the path, limited access design

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  • In the bike lane

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    Where do you ride?

    There is no right or wrong answer, just personal preference, opinion, or habit.

    Where do you do most of your riding? Can you describe it?

    What is the condition of those routes? Include potholes, glass, other users, trash, scenery, behavior of others, or anything else that influences the quality of your ride.

    Thanks!

    EDIT: OH MY GOSH!!!

    I left out offroad altogether! DOH!!

    (just click "other." )
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    usually do my bike riding in the rural road, or out in the city, you'll get good mileage without to much traffic lights to handle, nice rolling hills, less cars
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    all i need is one foot of pavement and i'm fine.
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    Mostly on roads with a speed limit of 25mph or 35mph. On a road with any faster speed limit, the time it takes for an automobile driver to react to your presence is too much to travel safely. Add to that the fact that the cagers don't expect to see you and that speed limits in metro Detroit are a mere suggestion, all of this tends to keep me on the less traveled roads, even if it means weaveing a little out of my way.

    Rather than spending money on bike paths, I would like to see the local cities around Detroit get together and lay out some bike "routes". These are routes that parallel major thouroughfares with traffic signals at major crossings, and have 25-35 mph speed limits. I have my own routes now but it would be nicer if they were marked and mapped. The cost would be much less than bike paths (signage and a few traffic lights). Some cities have these, but generally they don't go anywhere and they only for that particular small municipality. I think the existing routes are meant to keep children out of traffic, and not meant for commuters or transportation from point to point.

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    my only complaint is that there's a lack of bike lanes on busy roads in many areas. I hate hanging on for dear life when traffic encroaches on my little path.

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    I have a mile and a half on back roads, mostly with no posted speed limit. (That means 55 to most people! And they usually ignore the little bit posted 25mph.) The rest of my usual 8-mile route is on the country highways.

    For about 4 miles I have no paved shoulder. The traffic isn't usually too heavy, but there always seems to be 2-way traffic when I'm creeping up one of the steepish, no-passing hills. Then there's a THREE-way stop that's touchy....coming from town, you never can be sure the cars will realize you aren't stopping, and going into town, you can never be certain that the oncoming, non-stopping cars aren't going to try to hang a fast, unsignaled left turn in front of you.

    For the last bit, near town, there's a nice, smooth paved shoulder. And, of course, the speed limit goes down once I enter the town.

    The way home is about the same, except that where I leave the highway involves making a left turn on the downside of a hill, at a blind curve....so you want to be REAL SURE that a car isn't coming up behind you before you go over that hill.

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    My favorite road routes take me down paved, two-lane country back roads. I ride city streets and numbered highways only to get to those roads.

    I use the local bike path as a jumping off point for road and mountain bike rides.

    On the mountain bike I ride dirt and gravel roads, farm lanes, trails and whatever single track I can find.
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    The first 4 miles of my commute are in suburban streets with 25 to 30 MPH limits, the next 1.5 MI are state highway with 55 MPH suggestion, then 2 MI of wildlife sanctuary 2 lane road that isn't actually posted so a default limit of 45, then another .5 MI suburban street, then a final .5 MI of highway that is mostly traveled at 45 MPH (by the cars). The wildlife sanctuary road has lots of curves so it is one of the few places where traffic actually is fairly sensible in its speed, 25 to 30 MPH for the most part.

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    I'd rather not see one more foot of bike lane in my city--rather see the city hire some police with f%$#ing balls regarding controlling the behavior of motorists. We have a big Russian community here, certainly there's a few ex-KGB or Red Army MP's that would like a law enforcement job again!

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    Mostly single track with steep ascents or descents, fire roads clean or extremely tough, and some groomed tourist runs. Thankfully there are many many trails routing all through whistler so I will even sometimes hop onto a paved trail if I feel like travelling at high speeds

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    Oh, lookout! Another thread tempting me to rant again. I basically ride on the road, irrespective of it's speed limit. I'll use back streets if they're available (they usually are) or highways if they're not. I'll ride on the shoulder if one is provided, and I treat on-road bikelanes like any other shoulder.

    I have tried bikepaths in the past, and found them frustrating and extremely dangerous, hence I don't use them now. To be honest I think bikepaths are a little silly. They just tend to ghetto-ise cyclists and basically send out a clear message: "You are a Toy. You are not a legitimate form of transport."

    *EDIT*: The speedlimit question is a little irrelevant around here where nobody follows speed limits anyway.
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    That depends on what I'm doing and where I'm going. For a fun fitness ride, I ride up and down A1A which parallels the Atlantic. Speed limit is 35 with bike lanes here and there. I'm more comfortable using the bike lanes but I really don't have issues sharing the road with vehicle traffic. Sharing bridges with vehicle traffic can be spooky if the vehicle is a bus or winnebago type motor home so I give a glance back to see what's coming before I commit to riding the traffic lane.

    For commuting onto the mainland it's the same. Bike lanes here and there. I've had more issues with other dorky cyclists than vehicle drivers. Cyclists that travel the wrong way and get in my way really drive me bats. There's this one bridge I usually ride off the road on the walkway. There's a guy who rides the wrong way carrying a full size surfboard and it never fails that we literally cross paths.

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    During the week I ride on the bike path. And I ENJOY it. It is normally after work between 6-8 p.m. so there are not a ton of people. Most (not all, which includes other cyclists) people on the path are considerate. Looking behind them before crossing the path or staying to one side, etc.

    On weekends, I ride with my bike club on back country roads, mostly with speed limits up to 35 mph. I don't mind riding with traffic that goes faster if there is a wide enough break down lane. There is a lot of glass on the roads which I really do not understand. Most drivers are pretty considerate, giving me and the other riders a wide berth. (Sometimes the other riders in the bike club demand it by riding 3 wide on a narrow country road and not giving way.) The dogs though really need some Ms. Manner's classes.

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    Mostly on roads, only using bikepaths when necessary, and some roads designated only for bikes and non-motor traffic. I wish that, as in whistler, there were more fire roads and off-road trails in the area, but there is one really good one I know of. Some parts of it are impassible, though, because it runs along a beach and you get mired in the sand.
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    Mostly on Provincial Trunk Highways with speed limit of 100km/hr. The parts I'm on are four lane divided, so if the traffic isn't too heavy the cars have a full lane to get around you on, and most pull out to leave room. It's one of my pet peeves though, that there are always a few who still go within inches of your elbow, when there is no other traffic and they have almost two full lanes to drive in! On some parts there is a wide paved shoulder, which gets you out of traffic completely.

    Part of my area includes an access road to the trans Canada highway, which, while the pavement isn't that great, at least there's not much traffic, and it's a little closer to the open fields and peace and quiet.

    The rest is a variety of residential streets, which I can usually use to go to other parts of the city, instead of main traffic arteries.

    When I'm riding with my SO, we stick to the quiet streets, and bike paths (really multi use, with their associated pains in the a$$es)in the parks.
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    I ride most of the time on a highway that has fairly wide shoulders adorned with broken glass and other trash. 90% of the time I ride on a narrow strip of smooth pavement just outside the outer white line, and move off onto the shoulder as necessary.

    The alternate is narrow blacktop roads with numerous loose dogs, and youngsters in heavily mortgaged new cars who drive at heady speeds while thrilling to, and perhaps chanting along with, a tape of an Afrikan fertility rite at max volume.

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    kill that white cop
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    I rarely ride on roads with a speed limit over 45mph, but I ride on all of the other listed choices, including "other".

    Some of the streets near where I live have a speed limit of 15 mph, which is nice because I can actually exceed the speed limit. Speaking of which, I was riding on a bike path recently and there was a radar cop on the road that parallels it, where the speed limit is 20 mph. As I approached the cop car I wondered if the speed limit also applied to the bike path, because I was doing about 30 at the time. (He didn't stop me.)

    Yes, I do ride on bike paths, but only on off-peak hours when they aren't crowded.

    Most of my riding is done on city streets that generally have speed limits somewhere between 25 and 45. I really like riding on 'other', but I tend not to do that when I'm on my road bike. When I'm on my mountain bike, I recognize few boundaries.

    Knowing no boundaries sometimes gets me in trouble. The other day there was a trash truck in an alley I wanted to turn in to (to avoid going the wrong way on a one-way street). Not wanting to try to pass the trash truck in the narrow alley, I decided to take a short cut - up a dead-end, then 'cross country' to the alley (ahead of the trash truck). It didn't look too difficult, at least not until just before I reached what I thought was just a curb. It wasn't just a curb; it was a curb/drainage ditch covered with leaves. I got by the curb just fine, but the drainage ditch was a different story. The good news was that I was completely unhurt. The bad news was that by the time I got back on my bike, the trash truck was gone.

    I frequently ride on one street that has I bike lane, but I rarely ride actually IN the bike lane. I'm generally just about on the line separating the bike lane from the automobile lane.
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    Where I now live the roads are either 60/80/100kph or 37.5/50/62.5mph. Thankfully the new state government is reducing country roads from 100 down to 80 zones. The vast majority of drivers will move over to the white line to pass or actually cross the white line by half a car width. The one thing most won't do is slow down considerably, when a car is approaching from the other direction. They squeeze past at about 80 over against the white line, between me and the approaching car.

    I may be jinxing myself but in 10 years of riding I have never had anyone beep or abuse me as they pass. I have even had drivers sit behind me on twisty uphill roads until it is safe to pass.

    My main gripe about riding is that some drivers don't look for bikes when turning across traffic or when entering a road from a side street, failing to give way.

    Cycling here is very good. City roads are excellent, heaps of bike lanes marked on the roads, country roads are crap.

    My preference would be roads with bike lanes, or wide shoulders.

    Unfortunately, all the hills roads are without shoulders. Normally there isn't even a white line on the edges of the road, just a dotted line in the middle.

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    Originally posted by Dutchy
    I may be jinxing myself but in 10 years of riding I have never had anyone beep or abuse me as they pass. I have even had drivers sit behind me on twisty uphill roads until it is safe to pass.
    Gee, you wanna come and ride over here for a while. If I go 10 days without that happening, it's a major achievement
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    I ride most of my mileage commuting and appr. 85% of my commute is on designated bike paths. The rest is on quiet back streets.

    Bike paths in the suburban area here are usually sealed, have little traffic and are designed well enough to allow for riding at 35-45kph or more. I definitely consider them safer and more fun to ride than the streets. Closer to downtown they get more crowded, they're more tightly integrated with the streets or are missing completely. So when I ride in the city (what little we have of it) I don't ride out of my way to get to a bike path / lane. I share lanes with cars where required.

    Bike paths are usually in good condition, but when they tear a section open for road works / cabling / pipe checks / whatever, it usually stays that way for the entire summer. One of the local shopping centres has a large open "market" designated for pedestrians and cyclists. This spring they decided to re-seal the entire market and banned cyclists from the area temporarily. I can understand their rationale, as passages are now quite narrow during the sealing work, but they did not bother to a)post warning signs to approaching bike lanes to inform people that the major drive-through route is now blocked, nor b)arrange alternative routing. This kind of ignorance to bikers' well-being is still fairly common. As a result, cyclists now arrive at the "no bikes" sign, scratch their helmets for a while and then proceed to ride merrily through.

    Further away from cities we usually don't have designated bike paths. I try to take quiet but sealed back roads there. After a while you get to know the best roads in the area, and use mostly those. We do have a "suggested bike route" project, but the routes so poorly marked that you need the project map and a bit of advance planning to find them.

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    I now live in the country and ride on rural back roads where the limit is 80km/h (50 mph), paved road with a gravel shoulder. The route has rolling hills, a tad too narrow for my liking, is twisty for the first 12km or so, with only about 6km of rough road over my 80 km recreational route.


    Very low traffic volume, a car will pass me every 5 minutes on average, which over a 3 hour ride is only 36 cars, they tend to follow the speed limit, but about 30% are driving too fast, but I find that ALL the drivers give me a wide berth, no screaming, and I even get waves the further away I get from the city outskirts!!

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    I live east of town. Virtually everything west of me is uphill eventually reaching the mountains. I haven't yet ridden up the mountains but the opportunity is there when I am ready.

    The nice thing is the ride home. No matter where or how far I go on my ride so far, the trip home is down hill.

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    If it's paved, I'll ride on it.

    Exceptions for roads paved with a more than 2:1 good intentions / asphalt ratio.
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