wphamilton

Kind of a strange example but a real one, where life insurance was denied because the knife guy could have expected an escalation in lethal force. Just an example that illustrates that what you should expect that might happen is also important, in addition to what you "intended", or didn't intend, to happen.

I-Like-To-Bike

Can you point out any posts on BF from clueless motorists regarding the "value" of lives of cyclists? Or are those "assumptions" actually made by BF Henny Pennys arguing with one of their favorite strawman about conjured boogymen?

Note: trolling the Internet seeking nutty "comments" made by cranks to blogs and Internet news stories and posting the cherry picked dreck is not a very good method to gather data or facts on any subject.

genec

Go ask canklecat if he is also a motorist... he posted the original comment regarding cyclists' value...

I was merely defending cyclists, by stating that they do have value beyond being human speed bumps for motorists...

I-Like-To-Bike

You are "defending" against strawman arguments made/assumed by various BF posters that are projected into the minds of their conjured boogyman motorists.

genec

Seems like that's my problem... not yours.

Otherwise, consider that you are supporting the strawman argument, by complaining about my defense. Go back to sleep old man.

Rollfast

Gene, if I knew your middle name I could scold you like your mother. Be nice, you've BOTH been banned before and why do it again?

Let's get back to the topic or close it. This tiff is garbage on all sides.

genec

Aye Aye sir...

italktocats

how did the knife shoot bullets though?

the main reason im not worried about people with knifes is... its not a gun

Joe Minton

A few years ago, near here, a seventeen year old girl was texting while driving. She ran into the back of a van carrying a family of seven. The van was knocked into an intersection where it was struck by a loaded semi-truck doing about 45mph. They all burned to death, an entire family of seven, burned to death. As I heard it, she tried to call it an accident.

Joe

wphamilton

The same principle would apply. Using lethal force, you should expect that an escalation to lethal force might be used against you. You have intention of the outcome where there is some reasonable degree of expectation. I don't know exactly where that line is, on how likely the outcome needs to be before you can expect it.

It seems to me that the same reasoning should apply to "intent" with regards to traffic accidents. If you should have had sufficient expectation that the outcome might occur, then it was intentional enough that it could not be an accident.