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How do others cope with hot weather days?
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Originally Posted by Chris0516
How do others cope with hot weather days?
I tend to decrease my speed during the summer. Also, if I do any recreational riding, I do it late at night.
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South Florida, this time of year most days the temperature is mid-to-high 80s and the humidity in the 70s and 80s. I don't change the length of my rides, or when I ride (mid-morning through early-afternoon), and my clothing stays the same year-round: long-sleeved, loosely-woven, lightweight polyester -- it keeps me cooler and prevents sunburn. I'll go out with two water bottles, rather than one. Oh, and I often run my cycling cap under the faucet before I leave.
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Originally Posted by Jaywalk3r
Also, if I do any recreational riding, I do it late at night.
This; when I worked graveyard shift, I'd ride on my nights off, usually setting out around 1-2 AM.
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I do two things, ride earlier in the morning, like at 6 AM and hydrate, hydrate and some more hydration. If it is painfully humid and hot, I'll ride a sprint paced 1 hour ride in the morning and again at night.

The key thing is to keep hydrated!
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I plan to ride mostly early or late. I enjoy night rides, so that'll be easy. And there are several nighttime group rides in my area.

When I resumed cycling last year after a 30 year break my first ride was from the parking lot where I met the craigslist seller to home, a 3 mile ride. Easy, I thought, since I was in decent shape from lots of walking.

Wrongo.

It was August in Texas, 110F, and I unwittingly chose the single hilliest possible route in my area -- all uphill, the direction I was going -- based on Google maps recommendation (Google is virtually always wrong about recommended bike routes). I bonked after one mile. Luckily I flopped over on the grass by a bus stop. The bus was only a few hundred yards away. The driver took pity on me and helped me load my bike onto the front rack.

By the end of September I was able to handle 10-12 miles, with plenty of rest and water breaks along the way on days in the 90s.

But those cotton t-shirts and collared pullover cotton knit shirts were miserable. So my first cycling specific clothing purchases were some inexpensive Garneau casual fitting poly micro-weave jerseys. They look pretty much like casual pullovers, solid colors, not too bikey. The giveaways are the zippered mid-chest to throat opening and three rear pockets. But I don't feel self conscious wearing those to casual visits with friends to museums and galleries. And the fabric wicks well and dries quickly, so I don't arrive looking and smelling like a wet dog. Much more comfortable in temps ranging from the 60s-90s. No 100+F days yet this year, so we'll see. But it's been comfortable on 85% humidity days in the mid-80s this spring.

I wear a bandanna under my road style helmet. More comfortable and keeps the helmet cleaner as well.

Sip water every few minutes while riding, even when it's relatively cool -- those overcast cool days can be deceptive. The worst cramps I ever got from riding was in a time trial on a cool overcast day years ago. I didn't feel thirsty and may have even omitted the water bottle, and it was an unsupported TT. Dumb mistake.

Because I passed out from heat exhaustion (not heat stroke) several years ago working in the summer I'm more aware of the risk now. So if I feel the symptoms I slow down or stop and rest to cool off. I'm usually not in a big hurry anyway.

I wear sunscreen more often now, something I used to neglect. Usually sunscreen with DEET, since the riverside MUP is probably gonna be mosquito hell this spring and summer. I've noticed my arms have developed that "old man skin" look, with blotchy whitish patches amid the farmer tan. I may get some long sleeve lightweight jerseys -- a recent thread listed several recommendations for summer weight long sleeve jerseys.
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Originally Posted by Chris0516
How do others cope with hot weather days?
I once did a trip across the southern US in the middle of summer. My early plans were to get up early early and get out there while it was still somewhat cool, and then stop riding at the peak of heat for the day.

Well it didn't work that way. I found myself wearing long sleeve T shirts and even my wool leg warmers until around 11AM... they actually kept the sun from "baking me" by keeping direct sunlight off of my skin and by allowing my sweat to accumulate and cool me. I would shed the leg warmers and continue riding until early evening, still with the long sleeve T. As long as I stayed well hydrated, and kept moving, the sweat and air movement allowed me to keep on riding. I actually wore a bandanna around my neck to keep the sun off and maintain that cooling effect.

Now granted, this was desert air, low in humidity... a place where swamp coolers actually work. But I rode right into humid Fort Worth Texas using that methodology... Maybe it won't work in Florida though or anyplace where the humidity is upwards of 90%, but otherwise just moving on a bike worked well enough to keep me "cool enough." Of course I was pacing myself, so that too was probably part of it... trying to do sprints in 100 degree temps with 90%RH might be a bit much.

Airflow was my friend... so I would tend to do what ever it might take to keep air flowing... such as ditch the bike hat and go for a well vented light colored helmet. Wear loose fitting clothing, that covers a good portion of the body... this keeps off the sun, but allows air flow. And keep moving, albeit, perhaps a bit slower than normal.

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I think I suffered from heat exhaustion just three days ago. After 10mi. I just came home and flopped down on the couch. There were air quality alerts across the entire DC-Metro region today. Accompanied by heat in the 80's with 60+% humidity.

I agree about riding early, and later.

I lived around Tampa Bay in mid-1970's. It didn't get anything like it does around DC. It isn't the end of May. But it already feels like August, when it can hit 100. Makes me wish I stayed in Minnesota.
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How do others cope with hot weather days?
I mostly commute and have alternate routes that are more shady than others.
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I find warm water is not very refreshing or even thirst quenching. Once it gets hot and for long rides, I freeze one water bottle about half way and the second one completely. When it is really hot, I cover the water bottles with old fleece mittens for extra insulation. They stay cool for 5 to 6 hours.
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Originally Posted by canklecat
I plan to ride mostly early or late. I enjoy night rides, so that'll be easy. And there are several nighttime group rides in my area.

When I resumed cycling last year after a 30 year break my first ride was from the parking lot where I met the craigslist seller to home, a 3 mile ride. Easy, I thought, since I was in decent shape from lots of walking.

Wrongo.

It was August in Texas, 110F, and I unwittingly chose the single hilliest possible route in my area -- all uphill, the direction I was going -- based on Google maps recommendation (Google is virtually always wrong about recommended bike routes). I bonked after one mile. Luckily I flopped over on the grass by a bus stop. The bus was only a few hundred yards away. The driver took pity on me and helped me load my bike onto the front rack.

By the end of September I was able to handle 10-12 miles, with plenty of rest and water breaks along the way on days in the 90s.

But those cotton t-shirts and collared pullover cotton knit shirts were miserable. So my first cycling specific clothing purchases were some inexpensive Garneau casual fitting poly micro-weave jerseys. They look pretty much like casual pullovers, solid colors, not too bikey. The giveaways are the zippered mid-chest to throat opening and three rear pockets. But I don't feel self conscious wearing those to casual visits with friends to museums and galleries. And the fabric wicks well and dries quickly, so I don't arrive looking and smelling like a wet dog. Much more comfortable in temps ranging from the 60s-90s. No 100+F days yet this year, so we'll see. But it's been comfortable on 85% humidity days in the mid-80s this spring.

I wear a bandanna under my road style helmet. More comfortable and keeps the helmet cleaner as well.

Sip water every few minutes while riding, even when it's relatively cool -- those overcast cool days can be deceptive. The worst cramps I ever got from riding was in a time trial on a cool overcast day years ago. I didn't feel thirsty and may have even omitted the water bottle, and it was an unsupported TT. Dumb mistake.

Because I passed out from heat exhaustion (not heat stroke) several years ago working in the summer I'm more aware of the risk now. So if I feel the symptoms I slow down or stop and rest to cool off. I'm usually not in a big hurry anyway.

I wear sunscreen more often now, something I used to neglect. Usually sunscreen with DEET, since the riverside MUP is probably gonna be mosquito hell this spring and summer. I've noticed my arms have developed that "old man skin" look, with blotchy whitish patches amid the farmer tan. I may get some long sleeve lightweight jerseys -- a recent thread listed several recommendations for summer weight long sleeve jerseys.
20 sips of water on a one hour ride even when it is "relatively cool" ??
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Wonder why more people don't come here for advice...
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I ride slower , take easier (flatter) routes if I can, avoid areas without shade, drink a ton of water, and wear sun protective gear. I always get asked if leg and arm sleeves make me hotter, but they don't; they keep my skin from burning and provide protection from the sun intensity so I'm cooler overall. The visor on my helmet also helps.

I usually stay off my bike if it's over 85F, almost always over 90F. I take this seriously as I am not heat tolerant, my skin burns easily, and I have experienced the joys of dehydration and sun poisoning in the past. Fortunately I live in a place that doesn't often get that hot.
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20 sips of water on a one hour ride even when it is "relatively cool" ??
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Wonder why more people don't come here for advice...
Not sure what your point is. I drink 16-24 oz of water an hour of uninterrupted riding, depending on the temperature. I just sip about an ounce every few minutes rather than gulping a few ounces every 15 minutes or so. Personal preference, feels more comfortable, less bloating. Seems about right for me, and I'm not racing anymore. How much do you drink?
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Originally Posted by canklecat
Not sure what your point is. I drink 16-24 oz of water an hour of uninterrupted riding, depending on the temperature. I just sip about an ounce every few minutes rather than gulping a few ounces every 15 minutes or so. Personal preference, feels more comfortable, less bloating. Seems about right for me, and I'm not racing anymore. How much do you drink?
My rides are relatively short at 60-90 minutes per and I don't bring anything to drink.
But I realize that is not the norm.
I can't imagine there is an adult on this planet though that should need to be told when and how to drink water when exercising.
Not how to hydrate mind you because that is even sillier. Simply when and how to drink water.
Don't even get me started on the chuckleheads that can't handle their water unless it is very cold
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Best to sip water and some gatorade in the hours leading up to the ride. Get hydrated ahead of time and stay on top of it during your ride. We made an error yesterday and bypassed all food and cold water opportunities on a 3 hour ride in 90+ degree heat. We paid for it. Stop early and often if you need to and quit riding if you don't feel right.
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Originally Posted by bakes1
My rides are relatively short at 60-90 minutes per and I don't bring anything to drink.
But I realize that is not the norm.
I can't imagine there is an adult on this planet though that should need to be told when and how to drink water when exercising.
Not how to hydrate mind you because that is even sillier. Simply when and how to drink water.
Don't even get me started on the chuckleheads that can't handle their water unless it is very cold
There are a lot of adults just getting into excercising who don't know when to drink or how much to drink. This is also true with experienced people. htere have been deaths in running marathons because a runner drank TOO MUCH water. So yes, there are some adults who need to be told how to keep properly hydrated during exercise.\

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There are as many persistent myths and old man's tales about hydration as there are about which side of the road kids should ride on. The same generation that taught kids to salmon against traffic on their bikes also taught high school football players to toughen up by not drinking water during summer two-a-days. Killed a lot of kids with both bits of misinformation.

When I was a Navy Corpsman assigned to Fleet Marine Force service we went through a second mini-boot camp at Pendleton with somewhat more strenuous PT and marches (although still a picnic compared with real USMC boot camp). Most of our instructors were Marine DIs, but one was an older chief petty officer Corpsman who was, frankly, an idiot. He was one of those guys who'd get people killed by telling 'em it was bad to drink water on long forced marches fully loaded down. I'd hate to think was his remedies were for injuries -- probably leeches and bloodletting. How a guy like that become a Corpsman is beyond me. Maybe he was banished to the Marines where he could do less harm than if he worked in a hospital. Fortunately nobody paid any attention to the old curmudgeon. The Marine DIs were much better.

Avoiding water is still a persistent part of boxing training. When I was an amateur boxer I had a coach who told us not to drink water during training, but to just dab cold water on our wrists. Images of Victorian era fainting couches came to mind. I drank plenty of water in training, other than during sparring sessions.

Now, it does make sense to only rinse out the mouth or sip very tiny amounts during an actual boxing bout, mostly to avoid stomach cramps or vomiting from getting slugged in the midsection. Most boxers are told not to drink any water between rounds until later in the fight. This may have contributed to the losses by Sugar Ray Robinson in his light heavyweight bid against Joey Maxim, and possibly Jack Johnson against Jess Willard. Both men did well early in those bouts but faded very suddenly late in the fights due to heat exhaustion (and probably improper training and poor nutrition in Johnson's case). And, infamously, the notoriously corrupt trainer Panama Lewis specifically told light welterweight champ Aaron Pryor to drink from a "specially prepared" bottle late in the bout against Alexis Arguello. Rumors persist Lewis had fueled Pryor with stimulants from that bottle. Although it's unlikely Pryor needed much help there -- he had a natural abundant energy reserve, and was a notorious cokehead. Mostly it got the attention of ringside observes because boxers usually drink little or nothing during entire bouts, beyond what little they swallow after rinsing and spitting.

Anyway, I sip water frequently while riding, usually only an ounce or less at a time, because gulping more than an ounce at a time at longer intervals upsets my stomach while I'm exercising. I've considered a hydration pack or bar-mounted bottle with a straw, because it's a hassle to keep reaching down to my bottle cage. The one time I've neglected to drink enough while riding the past year was a week or so ago, and sure enough I ended up with stomach cramps toward the end of a 30-40 mile ride on one of our first really warm and humid days.

If you're a human camel you might be able to get by without water for a 60-90 minute ride. Me, I wouldn't do it.
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Originally Posted by canklecat
There are as many persistent myths and old man's tales about hydration as there are about which side of the road kids should ride on. The same generation that taught kids to salmon against traffic on their bikes also taught high school football players to toughen up by not drinking water during summer two-a-days. Killed a lot of kids with both bits of misinformation.

When I was a Navy Corpsman assigned to Fleet Marine Force service we went through a second mini-boot camp at Pendleton with somewhat more strenuous PT and marches (although still a picnic compared with real USMC boot camp). Most of our instructors were Marine DIs, but one was an older chief petty officer Corpsman who was, frankly, an idiot. He was one of those guys who'd get people killed by telling 'em it was bad to drink water on long forced marches fully loaded down. I'd hate to think was his remedies were for injuries -- probably leeches and bloodletting. How a guy like that become a Corpsman is beyond me. Maybe he was banished to the Marines where he could do less harm than if he worked in a hospital. Fortunately nobody paid any attention to the old curmudgeon. The Marine DIs were much better.

Avoiding water is still a persistent part of boxing training. When I was an amateur boxer I had a coach who told us not to drink water during training, but to just dab cold water on our wrists. Images of Victorian era fainting couches came to mind. I drank plenty of water in training, other than during sparring sessions.

Now, it does make sense to only rinse out the mouth or sip very tiny amounts during an actual boxing bout, mostly to avoid stomach cramps or vomiting from getting slugged in the midsection. Most boxers are told not to drink any water between rounds until later in the fight. This may have contributed to the losses by Sugar Ray Robinson in his light heavyweight bid against Joey Maxim, and possibly Jack Johnson against Jess Willard. Both men did well early in those bouts but faded very suddenly late in the fights due to heat exhaustion (and probably improper training and poor nutrition in Johnson's case). And, infamously, the notoriously corrupt trainer Panama Lewis specifically told light welterweight champ Aaron Pryor to drink from a "specially prepared" bottle late in the bout against Alexis Arguello. Rumors persist Lewis had fueled Pryor with stimulants from that bottle. Although it's unlikely Pryor needed much help there -- he had a natural abundant energy reserve, and was a notorious cokehead. Mostly it got the attention of ringside observes because boxers usually drink little or nothing during entire bouts, beyond what little they swallow after rinsing and spitting.

Anyway, I sip water frequently while riding, usually only an ounce or less at a time, because gulping more than an ounce at a time at longer intervals upsets my stomach while I'm exercising. I've considered a hydration pack or bar-mounted bottle with a straw, because it's a hassle to keep reaching down to my bottle cage. The one time I've neglected to drink enough while riding the past year was a week or so ago, and sure enough I ended up with stomach cramps toward the end of a 30-40 mile ride on one of our first really warm and humid days.

If you're a human camel you might be able to get by without water for a 60-90 minute ride. Me, I wouldn't do it.
Seriously?...
You consider anything more than an ounce a gulp?
I feel sorry for you and your special condition. Wow
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Seriously?...
You consider anything more than an ounce a gulp?
I feel sorry for you and your special condition. Wow
Thanks. I reserve my gulping for beer. Like right now.

Just got back from a 24 mile ride in 88F temp and 88% humidity. Felt like a Louisiana laundromat, including dodging all the kidlets. Didn't quite finish my 24 oz water bottle. Making up with it now with beer. Gulped.
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Ride early, drink a lot of liquids , and occasionally pour water over my head when needed .
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Originally Posted by Number400
Best to sip water and some gatorade in the hours leading up to the ride. Get hydrated ahead of time and stay on top of it during your ride. We made an error yesterday and bypassed all food and cold water opportunities on a 3 hour ride in 90+ degree heat. We paid for it. Stop early and often if you need to and quit riding if you don't feel right.
I bought this-

Water Bottle: CamelBak | Eddy 1L BPA-Free, Spill-Proof Water Bottle for Hydration

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Bottle Cage: https://www.rei.com/product/814984/t...dula-java-cage

I agree about hydrating prior to a ride.

Today was 100 degrees w/ near 60% humidity. So, I stayed in.
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On hot or hot and humid days I put cold water into my stainless steel Thermoses. I have a plastic bottle on my handlebar. When the water in the handlebar bottle is very low or gets too warm I dump it on my head and jersey and replenish it with cool water from the Thermos. The Thermos keeps the water cool for many hours in open sun on asphalt roads.

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during the summer months here, riding in temps of >100F is almost a certainty.

for rides up to 50 miles, I take two 24-oz bottles of water and consume as needed. never use gels or gatorade.

other than that, don't really do anything special.

riding in the morning has cooler air temps, but the humidity is seriously high. I prefer to ride late afternoon, which is the hottest part of the day usually, but it easier for my body to deal with.
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