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Old 06-24-16, 11:33 AM   #1
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Local hit yesterday morning.

From what his wife has said so far, sounds like he was on one of the rural farm-to-market roads where the white line is less than a foot from grass, and got mirror-smacked by a small car that kept going around dawn. He's got bruises, road rash and a few stitches but nothing broken.

She did mention he was running a blinky on the bike and reflectives on his shoes. No word on the condition of the bike yet.
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Hopefully if running at night, by "blinkie" she means "blowtorch" not "some little piddly Walmart thing"

Glad he's mostly OK.
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Old 06-24-16, 06:30 PM   #3
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Hopefully if running at night, by "blinkie" she means "blowtorch" not "some little piddly Walmart thing"
No idea, but I offered assistance checking the bike out and doing any necessary repairs while he's recovering, so if they take me up on that, I'll use the opportunity to extol the virtues of my Radbot 1000. May also offer to go halves on some Scotchlite film from eBay.
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On a road like being described, I have a Dinotte 400r taillight, and along with SOLAS reflective material on my pedal, crank arms, and anything facing rearward that I can apply it to.
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Taillights, reflectors, all good but listening and looking behind will help even more. Riding is fully interactive.


We all hope for his swift return to health and cycling.
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The guy was run down by a car, and we're talking about his tail light? For a different perspective, since we're all speculating here, it is more likely that a distracted, inattentive, or incompetent driver was the problem here, and that the cyclist's tail light had zip to do with it.
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The guy was run down by a car, and we're talking about his tail light? For a different perspective, since we're all speculating here, it is more likely that a distracted, inattentive, or incompetent driver was the problem here, and that the cyclist's tail light had zip to do with it.
The thing I've noticed on these rural highways with the Radbot, and a PBSF before it, is that when people round a curve or top a hill and spot the bright, uneven red flash pattern, they go into "cop panic" that keeps them extra careful for 30-60 seconds after they figure out it's not a cop. That translates to a better passing distance. The more distracted they start out, the more intense the panic when they see it.
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We're talking about a little blinking red light like it's the Force.


This is Advocacy & Safety. The Safety part for this cyclist is not there at the moment.


The Advocacy part is that we try to help others avoid it if they can.


The Reality part is that things do just happen and another quarter won't get you to the next level.


It's not really 'cop panic', it's the sudden exposure to something they may not recognize and might not be able to react to.


A&S doesn't address the issue of hit and run really well...it was a driver that ran. All we can do is express our sympathy and advice how to hopefully prevent being hit (again, a variable created by an uncontrolled factor) and send our message out locally/regionally as members.


It still presents the paradox of rational prevention of irrational and unforeseen acts.
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The guy was run down by a car, and we're talking about his tail light?
Motorists have to be able to SEE you in order to avoid hitting you on a narrow road in total, country darkness. Depth perception after dark is very iffy for many people. Some wimpy twinkling red light might look like a cyclist two miles up the road when actually the cyclist is rolling off the hood of the car.

Being SEEN is everything. You have no chance without this. Being seen, and then IDENTIFIED as a cyclist, is best done from far away to maximize reaction time.
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Which is best accomplished by keeping track of your surroundings. If you have topped a hill and are descending, being out in the road is the worst place to be.


You are the most vulnerable traveler. It is not as much incumbent for that driver to be aware of you as you need to be of that driver. You are in charge of that bike, not them.


I'm going to get, but Rollfast, what if the driver is drunk/stoned/homicidal and such?


The honest answer is that you are not the one to decide your ultimate fate, but you are the one to take care of yourself. Nobody guarantees you come home or wake up.
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Which is best accomplished by keeping track of your surroundings. If you have topped a hill and are descending, being out in the road is the worst place to be.
He was hit by the mirror. Pretty safe bet he was already as far over as he could get. Most of that road has the fog line right at the edge of the asphalt, and a deep ditch beyond.
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Hopefully if running at night, by "blinkie" she means "blowtorch" not "some little piddly Walmart thing"

Glad he's mostly OK.
yah because if he wasnt, he better pay for the damage done to the car!
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Motorists have to be able to SEE you in order to avoid hitting you on a narrow road in total, country darkness. Depth perception after dark is very iffy for many people. Some wimpy twinkling red light might look like a cyclist two miles up the road when actually the cyclist is rolling off the hood of the car.

Being SEEN is everything. You have no chance without this. Being seen, and then IDENTIFIED as a cyclist, is best done from far away to maximize reaction time.
and how do you enforce this being seen thing? people will look but they will not see

if youre having SUCH problems with depth perception, take the ****ing bus!
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