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Old 07-12-16, 05:49 PM   #26
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I teach bicyclists to ride OUTSIDE the door zone of cars. An opening car door that hits a bicyclist can catapult that bicyclist into the traffic lane. I also tell bicyclist that if a bicycle lane puts them in the door zone then don't ride in that bicycle lane. Fortunately here we don't have to ride in a bicycle lane if we can show that doing so constitues a hazard to the bicyclist.

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I teach bicyclists to ride OUTSIDE the door zone of cars. An opening car door that hits a bicyclist can catapult that bicyclist into the traffic lane
yup saw a surveillance video online once that showed someone getting doored and was killed instantly
. shocking how quickly a moment can change an eternity
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What in the $DIETY$'s sake does a DOOR have to do with someone killing Matthew von Ohlen with their Camaro?

Really, between the innappropriate NYPD response and the stuff here....

Again, some reporters ride bicycles, and again they found the weapon. No news on the driver still. NOTHING TO DO WITH DOORS!

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Fortunately here we don't have to ride in a bicycle lane if we can show that doing so constitues a hazard to the bicyclist.

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Show to who? A cop that wants to ticket you. A judge that does not cycle.
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Show to who? A cop that wants to ticket you. A judge that does not cycle.
Again, NOTHING to do with Matthew's killing. NO FUNNY FACES.

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Again, NOTHING to do with Matthew's killing. NO FUNNY FACES.

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You are right, the post that I responded to had nothing to do with Matthew's killing.

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Unhinged Driver Chases Cyclists In Brooklyn Bike Lane, NYPD Shrugs: Gothamist

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Less than a month after a hit and run driver killed Bikestock co-founder Matthew Von Ohlen, another Brooklyn cyclist says an enraged driver followed him into a protected bike lane and tried to intentionally run him over. And when he tried to report the incident to police, he says officers weren't interested.
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Cyclists Question NYPD's 'Radio Silence' On Fatal Williamsburg Hit-And-Run

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In the comments after this report, there was a comment saying the vehicle was found right near the 90th precinct, suggesting the driver (or car owner) might have been a cop. Not sure if what it says is factual or assumption (probably the latter since it's not disclosed):

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location where camaro found not disclosed because it was parked on sidewalk in front of 90th
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Police have identified a suspect based off of the vehicle's registration, and a spokesperson said they are withholding the location where the Camaro was recovered [strikethrough: so as not to compromise the ongoing investigation.] until they can figure out how to make it go away for the Lieutenant.
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It's so ****ing sad that this is legitimately what might be happening
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If they know who the owner is and they are really looking for him, they should release the name...
Some had speculated, too:

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I estimate the odds of the murderer being an off-duty cop at about 99.8%. Get ready for a really stern slap on the wrist.
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"ooo ouch there's gonna be a pink mark on my wrist for at least a few days!"
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ihateloggingin spinner145 • 15 days ago
I assumed it's a cop, dark color American sports car, all tinted out.
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In the comments after this report, there was a comment saying the vehicle was found right near the 90th precinct, suggesting the driver (or car owner) might have been a cop. Not sure if what it says is factual or assumption (probably the latter since it's not disclosed):



Some had speculated, too:
I wonder if the cops bothered to collect fingerprints from the car. That can show who last used the vehicle.

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I think NYPD would have gone silent sooner if the driver was a fellow NYPD. The timing of the silence after announcing they know the registered owner, makes me think it is a cop from another jurisdiction or the family member of a NYPD cop.

Way too many cases around the nation of this type of crap going on.

Hopefully we will find out if this is the case or not for this killing.
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"Speeding and failure to yield pose the greatest risk to pedestrians, cyclists and drivers," mayoral spokesman Austin Finan said. "Our enforcement efforts are laser-focused on reducing these dangerous driving behaviors and making our streets safer for everyone."


"In 32 precincts, officers issued more tickets for tinted windows than for speeding and failure to yield combined."

Laser-focused?

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More than a month and complete silence of the police despite having identified the car owner, totally unacceptable. (Meanwhile, NYPD commissioner Bratton resigns to take up consulting job with former Clinton aid.)

Here is Matthew's Bikestock's online shop: FREE SHIPPING OVER $75 IN THE USA
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The car was found over 2 weeks ago! And now they are offering a $2,500 cash reward to help find the killer? Wtf this doesn't make sense.

NYPD: Just release the license plate from the car, we'll track the killer down ourselves. Release more information if you want the public to help out. This is total BS from the NYPD

I live 2 blocks away from the scene and I really pissed. Less than 1% of hit and run drivers are found... The NYPD doesn't care/wants to do anything on this

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I agree that it is odd there is no followup, but it isn't uncommon for stories to hit breaking news, then just die.

Some of the articles indicate that Matthew von Ohlen may have been deliberately struck.

If it was premeditated, then it could have been using a stolen vehicle. And, the police could have a lengthy investigation on their hands.

Or, even if not stolen, there could be some question about who was actually behind the wheel.
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I agree that it is odd there is no followup, but it isn't uncommon for stories to hit breaking news, then just die.

Some of the articles indicate that Matthew von Ohlen may have been deliberately struck.

If it was premeditated, then it could have been using a stolen vehicle. And, the police could have a lengthy investigation on their hands.

Or, even if not stolen, there could be some question about who was actually behind the wheel.
Your wasting your time thinking up excuses for NYPD not solving hit & run cases.
What was the case resolution rate for NYPD solving such cases? 1% is what I thought I saw somewhere in a news report.
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Your wasting your time thinking up excuses for NYPD not solving hit & run cases.
What was the case resolution rate for NYPD solving such cases? 1% is what I thought I saw somewhere in a news report.
They apparently have the car, a death, and possible intent. That should be enough to follow up.

Also, doesn't NYC have one of the most sophisticated surveillance camera systems in the USA?
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They apparently have the car, a death, and possible intent. That should be enough to follow up.

Also, doesn't NYC have one of the most sophisticated surveillance camera systems in the USA?
Of course it is enough, but matters not when all indications are NYPD does not want to bring the killer to account.
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Of course it is enough, but matters not when all indications are NYPD does not want to bring the killer to account.

It's also entirely possible they haven't been able to find the owner because he fled the country or something. They're probably offering the reward hoping a friend or family member will rat him out.
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It's also entirely possible they haven't been able to find the owner because he fled the country or something. They're probably offering the reward hoping a friend or family member will rat him out.
"up to $2,500" is hardly a serious reward, if NYPD truly wants to find the killer.
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It's also entirely possible they haven't been able to find the owner because he fled the country or something. They're probably offering the reward hoping a friend or family member will rat him out.
They could still announce the suspect's name, revoke the passport, etc.

The suspect might choose to not return to the USA, but in that case, it could save time and money with prosecution and potential incarceration.
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Still no news of any suspect. Meanwhile:

Joan and Bernt von Ohlen: Saving cyclists' lives today - NY Daily News

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The von Ohlens are both retired and live in Minneapolis. Matthew von Ohlen was their only child.
NYC Cyclist Deaths Rose 25% In The Last Fiscal Year : Gothamist

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The city also conducted a study on crashes involving cars making left turns, and found that left turns cause more than twice as many pedestrian and cyclist fatalities as right turns.
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They apparently have the car, a death, and possible intent. That should be enough to follow up.

Also, doesn't NYC have one of the most sophisticated surveillance camera systems in the USA?
That 'sophistication', is subjective on. The importance the NYPD places on a particular crime that is caught on camera.
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Ask A Native New Yorker: Is It Wrong To Hate Homeless People?

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Is there an underdog bias towards the poor and oppressed at Gothamist? I hope so, but outside of a column like this one we'd never allow it to shade our reporting of facts....
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