Video of driver going postal on cyclist in Corona del Mar, CA
08-20-16, 08:38 AM
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Really, there is nothing more to say at that point... maybe look 'em straight in the face and ask... "Aren't you going to be late for something... you WERE in an awful big hurry..."
08-20-16, 01:47 PM
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It's called a "politician's apology". They're only sorry for getting caught.
08-20-16, 07:04 PM
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For me, I started work at what ever time I wanted, no fixed schedule.
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08-21-16, 07:35 AM
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Ya, I always think about carrying pepper spray. My work takes me to a semi-secure area where that has off-duty cops. I asked them how many times they have pepper sprayed somebody, and the answer is always "quite a few"... followed by
"it doesn't work on everybody. Some people open their mouth and try to drink it. Some people are so jacked up on something it makes the situation worse".... so I keep rethinking the pepper spray and never carry it. Best thing to do is de-escalate the situation like the rider in the video.
"it doesn't work on everybody. Some people open their mouth and try to drink it. Some people are so jacked up on something it makes the situation worse".... so I keep rethinking the pepper spray and never carry it. Best thing to do is de-escalate the situation like the rider in the video.
08-22-16, 12:32 AM
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Not only that. They rant n' rave claiming we are in their way. When they have plenty of opportunities(within reason) to pass a cyclist.
08-22-16, 01:07 AM
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Pepper spray is probably not legal to use.
Why face assault charges yourself? You have video, you have media exposure, you have an investigation.
And you still have a civil suit that you can file either way.
Rambo is not the approach.
Don't escalate the situation, and if you were to be found at fault it would only make matters worse for you than it already would be.
Now, you have a video with the aftermath and not full insight and testimony as to the extenuating circumstances. They would likely be many of those. This is not a one-dimensional scenario.
This is a case to be investigated and gone over in a court of law.
It's not pleasant to have to watch, and it angers you I'm sure but we're not prosecuting anyone, it's an opinion we hold.
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Ya, I always think about carrying pepper spray. My work takes me to a semi-secure area where that has off-duty cops. I asked them how many times they have pepper sprayed somebody, and the answer is always "quite a few"... followed by
"it doesn't work on everybody. Some people open their mouth and try to drink it. Some people are so jacked up on something it makes the situation worse".... so I keep rethinking the pepper spray and never carry it. Best thing to do is de-escalate the situation like the rider in the video.
"it doesn't work on everybody. Some people open their mouth and try to drink it. Some people are so jacked up on something it makes the situation worse".... so I keep rethinking the pepper spray and never carry it. Best thing to do is de-escalate the situation like the rider in the video.
Most definitely. The key to defending yourself against irrational behavior is not to repeat it.
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08-22-16, 01:18 AM
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I had that happen once. I pointed out to the employee who was already late for work and tried to pass me on the right as I was turning my car to the right and into my own driveway as he was getting out of his truck at the front gate (just down the street)wanting to make something of it, that I knew the woman at the gate well and we both sang karaoke at the same bar often. She' would wonder about that and might not be so sympathetic.
Anyway, it's hard to get a job there so I wouldn't want to raise a stink at the gate.
I also knew which trailer park he lived in and where anyway, and he was a bit of a bully with his vehicle to me before. The belligerence ceased after that.
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Almost as bad as the standard "If anyone was offended, then I'm sorry" non-apology. Basically it says "I'm not in the wrong, but if you're so dumb as to be offended by what I said then I guess I'll apologize to you." Which is similar to his apology of "I'm sorry for the language I used." But yes, I agree he wouldn't have apologized one bit had this not gotten online attention.
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^ Harry Shearer's LeShow has a recurring segment called "apologies of the week--with The Beatles' refrain 'So sorry' playing as background noise."
This, in LeShow parlance, is known as an "ifpology." The examples are legion.
This, in LeShow parlance, is known as an "ifpology." The examples are legion.
08-27-16, 12:58 AM
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Somebody didn't read the instructions when they installed.
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08-28-16, 05:48 PM
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Ya, I always think about carrying pepper spray. My work takes me to a semi-secure area where that has off-duty cops. I asked them how many times they have pepper sprayed somebody, and the answer is always "quite a few"... followed by
"it doesn't work on everybody. Some people open their mouth and try to drink it. Some people are so jacked up on something it makes the situation worse".... so I keep rethinking the pepper spray and never carry it. Best thing to do is de-escalate the situation like the rider in the video.
"it doesn't work on everybody. Some people open their mouth and try to drink it. Some people are so jacked up on something it makes the situation worse".... so I keep rethinking the pepper spray and never carry it. Best thing to do is de-escalate the situation like the rider in the video.
09-02-16, 12:25 PM
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09-02-16, 07:36 PM
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"Share the road" is open to a wide range of interpretation by motorists also. To most motorists, share the road means when they roar up behind me I should get the Hell out of their way in order to share. Sharrows are redundant symbols that only works with motorists educated on their meaning. Maybe. If I already have a right to be on the road, why do I need signs and symbols on CERTAIN roads?
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09-02-16, 10:08 PM
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If it is OPEN carry, the point is you do not have to 'pull' the gun. As soon as you put your hand on it and ask, do you really want to get it on, the driver goes back to his car and leaves. It even works with just a mace gun.
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09-02-16, 11:07 PM
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Choice is up to each to make the proper decision. There is no universal truth in dealing with jerk drivers with entitlement issues.
09-03-16, 02:11 AM
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Or with equal likelihood, the driver goes back to hs car, gets in and runs you butt over since you threatened him. Or also possible especially in open carry states, the driver will go back to his car, get his gun and open fire on the posturing cyclist.
Choice is up to each to make the proper decision. There is no universal truth in dealing with jerk drivers with entitlement issues.
Choice is up to each to make the proper decision. There is no universal truth in dealing with jerk drivers with entitlement issues.
In all of the cases, they got back in their car and ran away after beat back or seeing the mace gun.
I consider it better to end the fight before it is physical.
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09-03-16, 08:56 AM
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09-03-16, 09:07 AM
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"Share the road" is open to a wide range of interpretation by motorists also. To most motorists, share the road means when they roar up behind me I should get the Hell out of their way in order to share. Sharrows are redundant symbols that only works with motorists educated on their meaning. Maybe. If I already have a right to be on the road, why do I need signs and symbols on CERTAIN roads?
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