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Old 12-02-16, 12:44 PM
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New Mexico #1 in bicycling fatalities

Weighing strongly against New Mexico is a high percentage of fatal drunken driving crashes, and a No. 1 ranking in pedestrian and bicycling deaths.
New Mexico racked up 74 pedestrian and five bicyclist fatalities, for a combined rate of 3.8 per 100,000 population
https://www.abqjournal.com/900324/hi...s-drivers.html

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That is subjective. My (ex)fiance lives in Santa Fe. Whenever I would go out to see her. I always found the traffic rather sedate, compared to the DC-Metro region. They drive like maniacs here.

Look at this: https://wtop.com/sprawl-crawl/2016/01...se-d-c-region/

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Eclipsed my home state of Florida, I see.

But like real estate, it's all about location. The roads I ride are as safe as you could hope to find.
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Originally Posted by Chris0516
That is subjective.
No it's not: these are numbers!

Originally Posted by Chris0516
My (ex)fiance lives in Santa Fe. Whenever I would go out to see her. I always found the traffic rather sedate, compared to the DC-Metro region. They drive like maniacs here.
I lived in Bethesda and Hyattsville and bicycled all around, often through DC (shortest route between the 2). I found pleasant lightly-trafficked streets and lights to make crossing the heavily-trafficked streets safe. Then again that *was* 30-50 years ago.

The deaths in NM are mostly in Albuquerque, the occasional one on the open road. Santa Fe is slower and more friendly to pedestrians and bicycles.
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Originally Posted by RandomTroll
No it's not: these are numbers!



I lived in Bethesda and Hyattsville and bicycled all around, often through DC (shortest route between the 2). I found pleasant lightly-trafficked streets and lights to make crossing the heavily-trafficked streets safe. Then again that *was* 30-50 years ago.

The deaths in NM are mostly in Albuquerque, the occasional one on the open road. Santa Fe is slower and more friendly to pedestrians and bicycles.
That is why I said it is subjective. In addition to Santa Fe, it doesn't include data from anywhere else in the state.

50yrs. ago, in the DC-Metro region. The Beltway(1957) was not quite ten years old. There was a lot less traffic in the region. Speeding was not a problem, and the Beltway consisted of two lanes(one lane each way; it is now four lanes each way).

30yrs. ago, I had moved to Bethesda in the summer of 1984. I lived on/near Mass. Ave. North of Little Falls Pkwy.. Speeding was even a problem then. All the residents along Mass. Ave. were repeatedly complaining about the speeders. Last year, a cyclist was hit and killed on Mass. Ave.. People don't obey the speed limits.
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Here's a list.
Deadliest States For Cyclists: Per Capita Fatality Rates

Puts New Mexico #3.
Florida #1.

Oregon doesn't do very well either.

Unfortunately a per-capita rate doesn't tell the whole story. How many bike commuters?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ycle_commuters

Hmmm... New Mexico doesn't show very high on that list.

Anyway, the deadliest states for bicycling also appear to be the states with the most temperate climate. And thus, likely more cyclists on the road for more months in the year.
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Here's a list.
Deadliest States For Cyclists: Per Capita Fatality Rates

Puts New Mexico #3.
Florida #1.

Oregon doesn't do very well either.
How can you trust them, when they do not even know that DC is not a state. Maybe they should have used Obama's 58 or was it 59 states.
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Originally Posted by Chris0516
That is why I said it is subjective.
Huh? Subjective means that it's different for different people. Unless you think somebody else has a different body count than that one, it's objective. You mean it's not the same everywhere.
Originally Posted by Chris0516
In addition to Santa Fe, it doesn't include data from anywhere else in the state.
It's the data for the whole state.

Originally Posted by Chris0516
50yrs. ago, in the DC-Metro region. The Beltway(1957) was not quite ten years old. There was a lot less traffic in the region. Speeding was not a problem, and the Beltway consisted of two lanes(one lane each way; it is now four lanes each way).
50 years ago there were a lot fewer people, even fewer cars, in the area.

Originally Posted by Chris0516
30yrs. ago, I had moved to Bethesda in the summer of 1984. I lived on/near Mass. Ave. North of Little Falls Pkwy.. Speeding was even a problem then. All the residents along Mass. Ave. were repeatedly complaining about the speeders. Last year, a cyclist was hit and killed on Mass. Ave.. People don't obey the speed limits.
Speeding has always been a problem everywhere. I'd never ride on Mass Ave.
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Huh? Subjective means that it's different for different people. Unless you think somebody else has a different body count than that one, it's objective. You mean it's not the same everywhere.
It's the data for the whole state.

50 years ago there were a lot fewer people, even fewer cars, in the area.

Speeding has always been a problem everywhere. I'd never ride on Mass Ave.
Granted it was not the same year. This was how New Mexico was last year: https://www.abqjournal.com/539773/nm...icyclists.html
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