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Old 01-11-17, 07:39 AM   #126
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You like looking up obscure laws, feel free to look up this case law.
So, a case in the 6th or 11th circuit, blue lights, impersonating, overturned.

Yeah. Zippo. Nada. Bupkis.

Given both your "memory" and your "knowledge" of law, YOU need to provide the cite.

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Your other post with a sign is just pointless BS. Any light on a dark path or country roadway seems way too bright, even your claimed dimmed auto lights.
Uh, wrong on the face of it. I walk and ride on this very same "dark path."

MOST trail users are considerate. SOME are not.

Most lights are in fact not "too bright." Some lights are in fact WAY TOO BRIGHT.

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Old 01-11-17, 09:23 AM   #127
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Most lights are in fact not "too bright." Some lights are in fact WAY TOO BRIGHT.

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Most bicycle headlights have so much "spillage" to begin with, and adding more lumens just acerbates the problem of blinding oncoming traffic. I tried different lens patterns for the type of bicycle headlamp that I use, but none really addressed the issue of light spillage, making me unable to use my bicycle headlamp to it's fullest output on much of my night commutes.
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Old 01-11-17, 09:41 AM   #128
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And all no doubt due to "needing" that "nuclear option" to get the attention of distracted motorists.


Even with flashing brake lights legal in Cailf, my area is a virtual desert when in comes to flashing brake lights, and the vehicles that had flashing brake lights, I found them as annoying as hell in slow stop and go traffic situations. So add a continual flashing, improperly aimed, high powered focused beam to the mix, especially in a low light situation, that could cause a situation to end up being more than just annoying.
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Old 01-11-17, 02:32 PM   #129
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The last, if not only time I ran all lights flashing at all was last week, and I spent most of that time WALKING it. Got a ride home, and the only reason I tried was because I had a new pair of longjohns held at the department store, they were the last pair in my size and I was dealing with stuff I bought more than 6 years earlier then I was 50 lbs. and THREE sizes larger.


We haven't had a real winter in years, until now. I still don't have a proper coat for that. Clown suit.
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Old 01-11-17, 02:52 PM   #130
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So, a case in the 6th or 11th circuit, blue lights, impersonating, overturned.

Yeah. Zippo. Nada. Bupkis.

Given both your "memory" and your "knowledge" of law, YOU need to provide the cite.

-mr. bill
Poor mr. bill's magic is not so great after all. You sound like a lawyer I watched whining about a judge who cited an unpublished case.

If I ever do get ticketed, then I will spend the time to find the case and expand the case law to the 9th circuit.

At least my case law in favor of commuting and utility cyclist did get published.

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HRS [CHAPTER 520
LANDOWNERS' LIABILITY]

Section
520-1 Purpose
520-2 Definitions
520-3 Duty of care of owner limited
520-4 Liability of owner limited
520-5 Exceptions to limitations
520-6 Persons using land
520-7 Rights
520-8 Rules and regulations

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Access to control invasive species, see chapter 520A.
Emergency use of private real property, see chapter 135.
Exemption for providing emergency access, shelter, and subsistence during disasters, see 663-10.7.
Recreational activity liability, see 663-1.54.

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The Hawai‘i Recreational Use Statute: A Practical Guide to Landowner Liability. 22 UH L. Rev. 237.

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Hawaii recreational use statute immunized federal government from liability for negligence for injuries sustained at urban swimming pool. 945 F.2d 1134.
U.S. government immune from negligence liability under Hawaii recreational use statute (HRUS) for personal injuries suffered by plaintiff while plaintiff was using a military recreational facility, where (1) because the government did not impose a "charge" or "fee" for plaintiff to enter upon and use the recreational facility, plaintiff's use of the government's property was "without charge" under the statute; (2) the fact that dock on which plaintiff was injured was closed to everyone except the instructors and students of the sailing course on day of plaintiff's injury did not strip the government of its HRUS immunity; (3) plaintiff argued that legislative history indicated that HRUS was not intended to immunize businesses from liability to their business invitees, there was no need to resort to statute's legislative history in search of an exception that was clearly not included; and (4) although plaintiff may have had professional as well as personal reasons for taking the sailing course, plaintiff's alleged "professional" motivation did not convert plaintiff into a "nonrecreational" user; plaintiff's subjective intent was, in the situation, immaterial. 181 F.3d 1064.
United States' motion for summary judgment denied, where United States had not demonstrated that Hawaii recreational use statute exempted it from negligence liability to plaintiff stemming from plaintiff's accident on Pearl Harbor bike path while traveling to work by bicycle; plaintiff raised a material issue of fact as to whether plaintiff was a recreational user of the bike path. 180 F. Supp. 2d 1132.
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Even with flashing brake lights legal in Cailf, my area is a virtual desert when in comes to flashing brake lights, and the vehicles that had flashing brake lights, I found them as annoying as hell in slow stop and go traffic situations. So add a continual flashing, improperly aimed, high powered focused beam to the mix, especially in a low light situation, that could cause a situation to end up being more than just annoying.
That cannot be! mr. bill says those lights are not that bright.
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That cannot be! mr. bill says those lights are not that bright.
It's not the brightness of the light, but the repetitive flash then steady light cycles that were annoying in long term slow stop and go,low light situations.
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