TenSpeedV2

A few days ago, on what I thought was YouTube, I watched a video that discussed lane position while riding the road. The cyclist had a camera mounted facing the rear, and there was a friend of his that would follow far back enough in a car to show how much visibility you had in each of the lane positions discussed, far right, right tire track, and then left tire track along with how most cars treated you based on lane position. Was hoping that maybe someone here had seen it or knew of it. Searching for this has been rather difficult. Checked my browser history, YouTube history, searched this forum, looked pretty much everywhere I go online and still cannot find it.

Huge thanks and appreciation in advance if you can find this or help me find it. Would love to show it to some people and spread some education.

ItsJustMe

Hitting youtube search with "bicycle lane position" comes up with a page of decent videos. Did you try that?

TenSpeedV2

I did, and variations of it as well. That was one of my main keyword searches on the web as well and still came up empty handed.

Leisesturm

Lane positioning isn't rocket science. YouTube is unregulated and variable. It is no authority. There is visibility and there is convention. By convention, bicycles ride to the right of any lane that they are in PERIOD. If there is more room to the right of that, i.e. a shoulder or striped off bicycle lane, by convention, bicycles will be expected there. Isn't that simpler than poring through various videos uploaded by who knows who and with what motives who knows what? FWIW.

MMACH 5

Not exactly accurate. Bicycles ride in the right lane--not "to the right of the lane". In fact, they can ride to the right, to the left or in the center of the right lane. It's the law in most parts of the country.

The OP is looking for the video in order to share information with other cyclists. It seems that the OP has seen the video and thus realizes the value of the information in it. This doesn't appear to be a random inquiry for youtube uploads on the subject.

ItsJustMe

OP wasn't looking for training for himself. He found a video that in his opinion did a good job getting across a good theory of lane management and positioning, and wanted to show it to others.

Unfortunately since there are dozens of them on youTube, without some idea of who was on the video or something to uniquely identify it, all that's likely to come from this is a bunch of links that aren't what he was looking for.

canklecat

If you watched the video via Facebook it may have been linked from Vimeo, Daily Motion or another host. And it might have been uploaded directly to Facebook. I've experienced that occasionally when trying to remember where I saw a video.

Sometimes doing a Google video search specifying one video hosting site at a time (site:vimeo.com), or using the minus "-" symbol to omit a site (-youtube.com) that's showing too many hits can help narrow things down.

Chris0516

WRONG!!!! I have the legal right to 'take the lane'.

That is in response to your stupidity!

Now, The OP was referring to a particular video on YouTube

TenSpeedV2

This is exactly it. Searching has come up empty so far but I will continue in hopes of finding it.

Leisesturm

You are indeed correct. Thank you for your calm and reasoned correction. What I meant to say was most cyclists do not need to be told they are legally empowered to use the full travel lane. What most cyclists need to know is WHEN they should use other parts of the lane. I occasionally see cyclists blithely cruising in the center of the middle lane of three lanes of 25mph city traffic, and... and. Well fine as long as nothing too crazy jumps off, but what if something does?

You're pretty vulnerable way out there without either 100hp like a motorcycle, or 4,000lbs of aluminum cladding like a motorist. Would it be the worst thing in the world to teach early vehicular cyclists to fear any other lane position than far right? That's how I ride. I am fully equipped mentally and physically to assume any lane position necessary, but the nanosecond that the need for such is past, I am back to FRAP. Every minute that I am not FRAP is uncomfortable. I am 59 years old and I have not had the first collision yet with a motor vehicle. Some of you here are half my age and already have had two and more serious accidents with cars on the road.

Trust me, it isn't because I've seen the YouTube video the o.p. is looking for that has kept me safe! The other day I was on a two lane in my usual FRAP posture. Suddenly an oncoming car came completely over the center line and blasted past with ~2' to spare. He was "properly" passing a cyclist on his side of the road, and would have no doubt registered the presence of a car coming towards him, but there wasn't one, there was just me: either he saw me and figured that with my road position he had room to make the pass OR he did not see me and figured he had room to make the pass. I don't know which it was but the point was moot because I was FRAP. Had I not been... ... So... yeah, yeah, yeah... full lane and all that... a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. True words. FWIW.

MMACH 5

Obviously, you and I use opposing approaches to lane position. I take the lane most of the time. If there is not a second, open lane next to me, I will occasionally move far right and let motorists pass. After they are past, I’m back to taking the lane. Obviously, this is not a difference we will settle here. Apologies to the OP for hi-jacking your thread with a VC vs FRAP debate.

Back on topic. This is not a video but a blog post that appears to discuss exactly what the OP saw in the video.

Bicycle lane positioning and riding in traffic - Cycle Gremlin