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Old 01-15-17, 08:35 PM   #26
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Trees take in CO2 and expel oxygen. Higher CO2 levels make tress stronger and grow better.
The problem I'm referring to is soil compaction from parking lots and walkways covering the root system. The soil itself should contain more air, including oxygen, than is present in highly compacted areas. Although the roots are not dependent on uptaking oxygen, the presence of oxygen in the soil is necessary to facilitate chemical processes that neutralize toxic materials.
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How about we get Mark to ride the whole thing and post the video. I call BULL on it being slower than 16 to 18 mph if someone is trying.
You are dreaming if you even remotely believe 16 mph average speed is possible on the MUP with traffic lights.
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The problem I'm referring to is soil compaction from parking lots and walkways covering the root system. The soil itself should contain more air, including oxygen, than is present in highly compacted areas. Although the roots are not dependent on uptaking oxygen, the presence of oxygen in the soil is necessary to facilitate chemical processes that neutralize toxic materials.
Soil compaction is the problem as noted, aeration and water absorption are symptoms/results of the real problem, combined with motoring pollution.
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How about we get Mark to ride the whole thing and post the video. I call BULL on it being slower than 16 to 18 mph if someone is trying.
There's a couple of stretches where 16 to 18 mph is reasonable, like in the third picture in the op. But on most of it I wouldn't want to go any faster than 12 or 13, there's a lot of crossings into business parking lots and some intersections.
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There's a couple of stretches where 16 to 18 mph is reasonable, like in the third picture in the op. But on most of it I wouldn't want to go any faster than 12 or 13, there's a lot of crossings into business parking lots and some intersections.
Arrrrg... sidepath danger.
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And now, over a month after I posted the OP, I am noting that most serious cyclists are avoiding and ignoring the path altogether, choosing to ride on the main street it parallels.
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Old 02-14-17, 09:15 AM   #32
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And now, over a month after I posted the OP, I am noting that most serious cyclists are avoiding and ignoring the path altogether, choosing to ride on the main street it parallels.
What is your definition of a "serious" cyclist, someone who rides or looks like you? Or is it someone who eschews riding on bike paths?
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Old 02-14-17, 09:30 AM   #33
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Not gonna happen. This is El Paso. These trees are going to die soon.
And blow away. Seriously; can you even ride upwind in what they consider "breezy" there?
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I think if a good bike path (like the one in the photo the OP posted) is available, people on bikes should use them rather than the street. If cyclists ignore them and ride in the road, then the message is "don't bother spending money making biking safer around here." Bike paths like these really encourage more people to ride and the more people who ride, the better.
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I've ridden on a lot of bike paths at the the 15 mph (more or less) speed - which is what I go on the road unless I'm sprinting. I think the driveway and intersection issues exists when you ride in the road just as much. In my town there is a stretch along a busy road that has a bike path similar to this one. I don't mind riding in traffic at all, but since it's there, I take it and bike stress-free.
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Around here we vote with our wheels. We don't have must use laws, we don't have FRAP, so on this block you'll find people on bicycles riding:
  • in the bike lane or thru lane (if going straight) or
  • in the turn lanes (if going left or right) or
  • on the two-way separated path (first segment of "Grand Junction Community Path").

A one block two-way separated path isn't that useful without good connections, so it doesn't get much use right now. There is *ZERO* chance that someone riding a bicycle on the road here will cause Cambridge (our fair city) MA to reconsider the "Grand Junction Community Path."

But one block further up the two separated bike paths ARE well used.

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And blow away. Seriously; can you even ride upwind in what they consider "breezy" there?
Low gears and low profile - Fortunately most of our winds are in the springtime.
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I dunno maybe I am set on being too positive in my old age, criticism is not my default attitude about most things. I think these bike paths are a wonderful way this city is being proactive for a greener means of transportation and promoting health in its citizenry. Yes the may obstruct the view 25 years hence but for today this is an improvement over most places that just put up with non-vehicle traffic.
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Low gears and low profile - Fortunately most of our winds are in the springtime.
I guess it was spring last time I was there. I just remember watching a GP medium tent trying to become a kite, and having to face exactly downwind to take a leak outdoors regardless of how public that made the process.
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