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Old 01-22-17, 12:14 PM   #26
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I've seen every type of bollard or post mentioned in the video above in use here in California-- and frankly, the dude complains too much. In order to keep cars off of the trails-- and the burnout marks you find in isolated areas proves that even the posts are not always effective-- you could find yourself where many of the California trails have ended up: the entrances of the trail are completely blocked by locked swing gates, and you get to dismount and snake-walk your bike through these horrible wooden contraptions designed to prevent the passage of anything going faster than about 1mph. I can't even google search for it, I have no idea what to even call it.

As to the Toronto situation, yeah, they need to put up posts. Otherwise, cars are going to continue to enter the bike lane, whether or accident or on purpose. I mean, do you know how many cars I've had to go around that are parked literally next to a sign that reads NO PARKING OR STOPPING IN BIKE LANE?

And lastly-- who runs into a pole? Do they hit every pothole, too? Those are seldom marked. Maybe it's because I'm so acclimated to them here, but when I approach an intersection or junction, I just assume there's going to be bollards. I'm just happy when it isn't a gate.
See if this link works. It the type of weave-around-it entrance you mentioned, and its supposed to be in Escondido (Calif). I've also seen narrower versions of them where they only want pedestrians, no bicycles, scooters or other stuff; a high school's running track near me has one at the public entrance.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=...85194689169916
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Old 01-22-17, 02:11 PM   #27
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This is the closest image I could find, which gives you the basic idea of it:



But the ones we get are made of roughsawn lumber, lower in height, and way, way tighter to navigate. It tends to be easier to just lift your bike over the vehicle gate that's usually right next to the zig-zag thing... unless the vehicle gate is a full chainlink 6-footer, which it often is.
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and the burnout marks you find in isolated areas proves that even the posts are not always effective
IME, that's because a lot of the maintenance jobs go to barely-out-of-high-school kids with little to no supervision, who think it's fun to do donuts in the work truck.
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This is the closest image I could find, which gives you the basic idea of it:

I don't think I could get my trike through that.
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I don't think I could get my trike through that.
If you enter at 90degrees of the trail, it might work. That would mean riding off the pavement to do it.
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Another dumbass motorist in Toronto.

Man fined $425 for driving SUV into streetcar tunnel was 'following GPS' - Toronto - CBC News

"Ross said that the entrance to the streetcar tunnel is clearly marked, but also said this has happened a handful of times before, most recently in April.

"There's lots of signage, lots of flashing lights to indicate to motorists that this is a no-go zone," he said."
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