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Old 01-24-17, 10:15 AM   #26
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I think if I were in his situation, I'd have tried to ditch how he ended up, once I realized I wan't going to recover rather than chancing running into that truck.

I don't ride where there are many of those, but they do suck and I keep an eye out when actually in the city.
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Old 01-24-17, 10:50 AM   #27
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Looks like the rider made a mistake. Looks like the condition of the road contributed to the crash.

I have a question that may not be entirely related to the topic at hand, but in a way it is.

Do riders who use helmet mounted cameras worry about the camera snagging on the pavement during a crash and fall? Do you use breakaway mounts? Just wondering.
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Old 01-24-17, 11:28 AM   #28
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One of the greatest threats when we find ourselves in a potentially-hazardous situation is abrupt over-compensation. The over-compensation, itself, can bring the rider down, and it seems that this rider tried to over-steer, to bring himself out of that groove. Then, he swung hard right to compensate for his over-compensation.
Departments of public works have a responsibility and a duty to make and keep roads safe for all users. They drive past these hazards all day long in their trucks. The only way to get them to take their job seriously is to sue when their negligence is the cause.
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Old 01-24-17, 12:57 PM   #29
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Speaking of which, not to criticize anyone in that particular video, but in group rides the leader(s) and more experienced riders should brief everyone in advance about route hazards and signals to indicate when and where it's safe to draft and when/where to back off, get more separation and clear sight lines. Our local nighttime group rides have similar issues, with some routes along roads that catch folks off guard if they're not as familiar with the road hazards as the group leader(s).
In all group rides I've been in, the lead cyclists point down to the ground any hazards such as potholes, rocks, etc, and everyone following does the same for the sake of the riders behind. They usually call it out, too.
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Old 01-24-17, 02:38 PM   #30
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We do that. But there are occasions when we could use other signals, to indicate when to spread out more and not follow too closely, etc., for riders who aren't as familiar with the hazards on a particular stretch of road.

Also, our rides include everything from hybrids to mountain bikes to fatbikes to road bikes. A hazard that wouldn't trouble a bike with 700x38 or wider tires might be catastrophic for a skinny tire.

But offhand I can think of only one fall over the past year, a fellow who scrubbed a curb on a cul-de-sac turnaround. So I may be overthinking this. Still, it could be useful to agree on a hand signal for "spread out, don't tailgate" that won't be mistaken for "I'm a helicopter!" or "I have gas!"


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Old 01-30-17, 05:34 PM   #31
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Great video KingCat! That was totally a legit crash.
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Legitimate danger, but just part of the road. I assume the onus is on me to watch out for them, but still manage to find them with my front wheel from time to time.
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