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Old 02-01-17, 08:28 PM   #1
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NYC Mayor "drunk driving a very minor offense"

Wow, just wow.

MADD furious with de Blasio over drunk driving comment - NY Daily News

NYC Mayor de Blasio blasted over drunk-driving comment | Fox News
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He means from a legal standpoint, not a moral one. He's not much of a public speaker, flubs stuff like this all the time.
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He means from a legal standpoint, not a moral one. He's not much of a public speaker, flubs stuff like this all the time.
As Mayor of one of the biggest cities on earth, he should get his act together.
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He means from a legal standpoint, not a moral one. He's not much of a public speaker, flubs stuff like this all the time.
If true, are you in agreement from a legal standpoint that 'drunk driving should be a very minor offense'?
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A drunk driving charge is not a minor offense. It is and always should be considered a major offense. My guess is that anyone that has not lost a family member or a dear/close friend to a drunk driver would think it is a minor offense. Just because a drunk driving offense didn't lead to death or injury, well, then the perp got lucky.

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If true, are you in agreement from a legal standpoint that 'drunk driving should be a very minor offense'?
Putting words in other's mouths is an unbecoming rhetorical technique. What I think about the crime is irrelevant. It is a fact that a first DWI offense in New York State is a misdemeanor. That is by definition a minor offense, legally speaking. Ethically or morally speaking it is a different matter, but that has no bearing on the legality.

That said, I agree he should not have said it, and he put his foot in his mouth. Again.
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The US at a federal level considers simple possession of Marijuana or even an admission to have smoked it in the past to be more serious than a DWI. When crossing the border into the US if they ask you if you've ever smoked the correct answer is no.
Impaired driving? No problem going across the border.
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It's a minor offense. No need to jail them or fine them, just yank their driving privileges for the rest of their lives. It's administrative, not criminal.
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Putting words in other's mouths is an unbecoming rhetorical technique. What I think about the crime is irrelevant. It is a fact that a first DWI offense in New York State is a misdemeanor. That is by definition a minor offense, legally speaking. Ethically or morally speaking it is a different matter, but that has no bearing on the legality.

That said, I agree he should not have said it, and he put his foot in his mouth. Again.
Then what can we say about the first offense in Oregon, where one can simply do a diversion and have it disappear. It's not even a misdemeanor. Also, one gets to reset the clock after something like seven years, so people do multiple diversions. Arrrgh! From my local paper, it appears that the only punishment our drunk drivers suffer is when they die in a single car crash, which is pretty much a nightly event around here (I exaggerate).
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Putting words in other's mouths is an unbecoming rhetorical technique. What I think about the crime is irrelevant. It is a fact that a first DWI offense in New York State is a misdemeanor. That is by definition a minor offense, legally speaking. Ethically or morally speaking it is a different matter, but that has no bearing on the legality.

That said, I agree he should not have said it, and he put his foot in his mouth. Again.
I simply asked a simple question.

Did not put any words in anyone's mouth.

You chose to take offense.

And you refused to answer the simple question. Oh well.
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He was clear enough-probably a lawyer
offense in lawyer-eese-means crime-
it is a minor crime,right

Besides "some studies" indicate that texting while driving is as dangerous as boozing-
Hope I LIKE doesn't read this-he will start whining about my casual "citing" "repeating" something I read.

Anyway lot more texting and playing with smart phones than heavy boozing
and boozers-assuming they aren't texting- usually attempt to keep their eyes on the road so they don't get arrested-since they KNOW cops will come down on them
TEXTERS have no such fears

I've been hit by a TEXTER(actually by his spring loaded mirror) so...
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If a driver is drunk and hits and kills a cyclist, he should be charged with premeditated murder!!!!!
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Why isn't this in P&R?
Actually, why is this alternative fact thread anywhere at all?

DeBlasio on CNN.

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Would it be safe to say that MADD is mad?
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It's a minor offense. No need to jail them or fine them, just yank their driving privileges for the rest of their lives. It's administrative, not criminal.
so, that sounds to me to be the same as saying that if you shoot someone and miss, then that should be considered a minor offense since no serious consequence resulted from it.
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If a driver is drunk and hits and kills a cyclist, he should be charged with premeditated murder!!!!!

Would you say the same if someone texting while driving hit and killed a cyclist?
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so, that sounds to me to be the same as saying that if you shoot someone and miss, then that should be considered a minor offense since no serious consequence resulted from it.
If the mayor and like, loved guns as much as they love cars, they would say they are the same and both would be considered minor offenses.
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A drunk driving charge is not a minor offense. It is and always should be considered a major offense.
It's not a major offense most places in America.

In California drunk driving is punished 48 hours - 6 months in jail for the first offense. Elsewhere people can drive drunk a few times without spending time in jail after they make bail (friends in Colorado discovered that through personal experience).

For comparison purposes, failing to lock your gun case driving to the range in California can be punished with four to eight years in prison.

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I can assure you they are. My daughter in law works for them.
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Drunk driving should be a felony.
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Drunk driving should be a felony.
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The US at a federal level considers simple possession of Marijuana or even an admission to have smoked it in the past to be more serious than a DWI. When crossing the border into the US if they ask you if you've ever smoked the correct answer is no.
Impaired driving? No problem going across the border.
A drunk driving offense on your record will get your turned away from Canada -- they don't allow criminals in their country...
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Drunk driving should be an aggravated charge, added to such offenses as hit and run, negligent driving, reckless driving etc.

Penalties should be stiffened and levels of crime reassigned as more severe for all driving infractions which result in property damage, injury, and/or death.

Conditions such as drunk driving and distraction like cell phone use should lead to an aggravated charge with appropriate upgrade of criminality and punitive results.

With such revisions to the law, Drunk Driving would become a misdemeanor Reckless Driving charge, aggravated by the Drunk Driving part of it to either a very severe misdemeanor level or even a minor felony, with appropriately more dire consequences for the offender.
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For comparison purposes, failing to lock your gun case driving to the range in California can be punished with four to eight years in prison.
Geeze. And I thought the culture shock from MD to SC was big.Went to the range with a buddy and he just slung his M4 over his shoulder. Asked him if he wanted to put it in my case...he asked me why? That was a no no up there....no problem at all down here.
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