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Thoughts:
Inattentive driver hit the rider.
CF Frame has nothing to do with anything. If he had not been clipped by the driver, he would have no issues with the shifting.
Should have checked the bike over for damage while he had the driver there.
Wonder what the issue that caused the OP to post is?
Inattentive driver hit the rider.
CF Frame has nothing to do with anything. If he had not been clipped by the driver, he would have no issues with the shifting.
Should have checked the bike over for damage while he had the driver there.
Wonder what the issue that caused the OP to post is?
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I didn't watch much past the impact. I'm not sure what thoughts we are supposed to have. Seriously? No impact shown... just wild tumbling and then the ground in close-up for several seconds. Very informative. Based on nothing, a judge and/or jury is supposed to determine that the driver was at fault and award the cyclist (who exhibited IMO a criminal lack of the most basic defensive riding skills) a new bike and thousands of Pounds for pain and suffering. Thanks for again reinforcing my opinion that a single, forward facing, video record is woefully inadequate for legal purposes.
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I also didn't watch much past the impact. I think maybe the OP is asking if this kind of impact renders the frame unrideable necessitating a replacement.
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I watched a little more than halfway through, and the driver repeatedly said she was sorry, so I think it's fairly obvious that she did hit him, she was at fault, and she knew it. Other than that I don't know what kind of comments the OP is looking for. Personally I wouldn't have left until a police report was made, but I don't know how these things are handled in the UK. Better to have it on record so that it will be easier to get any restitution.
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Fault is a funny thing, and as cyclists we are often obsessed with who was at fault. As long as we aren't at fault, we're good with that. I don't know about the UK but in the U.S. fault is often nuanced. So much percent of responsibility. If the total judgement is $100K, even being found 20% at fault can be financially daunting. That isn't in play in the present instance, but I credit my long years of relatively incident free cycling to being extremely hard on myself over the small lapses that can lead to close calls.
It might be useful to have seen the state of the bicycle after the impact. I mean... impact isn't seen, bicycle isn't seen after impact (is it?)... cyclist obviously survived crash without significant injury. Bike could be just fine, or bike could have come down hard and is now worthless. Thoughts? Take bike to someone who can SEE it, TOUCH it, and properly evaluate its state of health. And next time you barrel into a traffic circle that another car has just entered, back off and keep your eye on them! Also, just saying, there is a sticky posted above regarding how to proceed if you have been hit. Some of that advice is being disregarded in the present case. I've never been hit so I don't know whether the advice is sound, but it appears to stand up to peer review.
It might be useful to have seen the state of the bicycle after the impact. I mean... impact isn't seen, bicycle isn't seen after impact (is it?)... cyclist obviously survived crash without significant injury. Bike could be just fine, or bike could have come down hard and is now worthless. Thoughts? Take bike to someone who can SEE it, TOUCH it, and properly evaluate its state of health. And next time you barrel into a traffic circle that another car has just entered, back off and keep your eye on them! Also, just saying, there is a sticky posted above regarding how to proceed if you have been hit. Some of that advice is being disregarded in the present case. I've never been hit so I don't know whether the advice is sound, but it appears to stand up to peer review.
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And an inattentive cyclist allowed themselves to be hit. When will these speed racers learn that they are just a small hard to see target? He had the sun at his back, you can tell by the shadows, so the driver would have had the sun in their eyes while looking right. Hell I keep my eyes on the entrances on round-a-bouts even in my work truck.
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I was thinking about the viability of a CF frame after such an impact - given that they develop invisible cracks. I took some photo's recently but I'm not able to interpret them. forum.cyclinguk.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=108267&start=15#p1102073
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Sorry, but I don't get it, and even feel a bit abused.
You post an 11 minute video with no explanation of what the issue is. I get that there was a crash and you had the right of way. But that was about one minute in. I gave it another minute or so, then seeing that you were up and about wasn't willing to sit through another eight minutes or so.
If there's a point you wish to make, tell us what it is.
For my part, I'm happy that you're OK, and wish you well, but that's it.
You post an 11 minute video with no explanation of what the issue is. I get that there was a crash and you had the right of way. But that was about one minute in. I gave it another minute or so, then seeing that you were up and about wasn't willing to sit through another eight minutes or so.
If there's a point you wish to make, tell us what it is.
For my part, I'm happy that you're OK, and wish you well, but that's it.
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The rider was clearly not riding defensively. Idiotic to assume the car's driver would see him. I'm sorry, but this is not a right-of-way issue. No one in his right mind would risk a trip to the emergency room to make a point regarding right of way.
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Hmm
The rider didn't seem to slow one bit in anticipation of the tricky dangerous interchange
skinny tires maybe slick or sandy surface taking a curve at speed- and the cars-
amazing that rider has lived that long
PS Might not hurt to drop a lb or two- the weight isn't helping the frame
The rider didn't seem to slow one bit in anticipation of the tricky dangerous interchange
skinny tires maybe slick or sandy surface taking a curve at speed- and the cars-
amazing that rider has lived that long
PS Might not hurt to drop a lb or two- the weight isn't helping the frame
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OK the OP seems worries about invisible cracks to his CF frame. I say it's OK. From here in the western US most I can say. Me thinks the OP been reading too many bicycle forums.
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Stupid inattentive driver....................
Really the driver said it in two words..........Oh Please, multiple times. She sounds like she already had a bad driving record.
On a personal level, I never liked round-a-bouts when I lived in London, and I don't like them in DC and Surburban Maryland.
Really the driver said it in two words..........Oh Please, multiple times. She sounds like she already had a bad driving record.
On a personal level, I never liked round-a-bouts when I lived in London, and I don't like them in DC and Surburban Maryland.