Don't know what led up to this but I'd be really scared.
04-17-17, 08:26 PM
#52
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Posts: 38,691
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5772 Post(s)
Liked 2,569 Times
in
1,422 Posts
So, we get the obligatory fake apology.
Sorry, you can't unring a bell. While I can accept that you had a bad day and flew off the handle, the choice of words and insults wasn't accidental.
In vino veritas. Losing ones temper is like drinking, and what comes out reflects true underlying feelings. I, for one welcome these kinds of events because they strip the veneer and now we know what people like this bigoted, loudmouth, horses ass think when they smile and shine people off.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
04-17-17, 09:27 PM
#53
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Kent Wa.
Posts: 5,332
Bikes: 2005 Gazelle Golfo, 1935 Raleigh Sport, 1970 Robin Hood sport, 1974 Schwinn Continental, 1984 Ross MTB/porteur, 2013 Flying Piegon path racer, 2014 Gazelle Toer Populair T8
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 396 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times
in
7 Posts
I am not accusing, suggesting, or implying the cyclist in the video did anything wrong in any way, shape, or form.
I believe the cyclist in the video is guilty of nothing more than being in the wrong place at the wrong time, as FBinNY suggested, when surfer dude happened to come to the end of his fuse. I only used it as a generic representation of an extreme encounter. Clear enough?
The "victim blaming" is entirely a figment of your imaginations.
All I'm doing is admitting I'm personally capable of failures in judgment, or character as a cyclist, and that I'm mindful of it, because I don't want to become one of those people we all know. "That Guy"* who constantly complains about problems that are mostly of their own making.
*Just to be perfectly clear, "That Guy" Is entirely generic, and has nothing to do with the cyclist in the video.
Last edited by kickstart; 04-17-17 at 10:01 PM.
04-17-17, 09:53 PM
#54
What happened?
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Around here somewhere
Posts: 7,927
Bikes: 3 Rollfasts, 3 Schwinns, a Shelby and a Higgins Flightliner in a pear tree!
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1835 Post(s)
Liked 292 Times
in
255 Posts
Second thing I saw was the You Tube logo and good camera angles. The whole place is an actors' studio.
__________________
I don't know nothing, and I memorized it in school and got this here paper I'm proud of to show it.
04-17-17, 10:17 PM
#55
Cycle Year Round
No, you are both 100% wrong.
I am not accusing, suggesting, or implying the cyclist in the video did anything wrong in any way, shape, or form.
I believe the cyclist in the video is guilty of nothing more than being in the wrong place at the wrong time, as FBinNY suggested, when surfer dude happened to come to the end of his fuse. I only used it as a generic representation of an extreme encounter. Clear enough?
The "victim blaming" is entirely a figment of your imaginations.
All I'm doing is admitting I'm personally capable of failures in judgment, or character as a cyclist, and that I'm mindful of it, because I don't want to become one of those people we all know. "That Guy"* who constantly complains about problems that are mostly of their own making.
*Just to be perfectly clear, "That Guy" Is entirely generic, and has nothing to do with the cyclist in the video.
I am not accusing, suggesting, or implying the cyclist in the video did anything wrong in any way, shape, or form.
I believe the cyclist in the video is guilty of nothing more than being in the wrong place at the wrong time, as FBinNY suggested, when surfer dude happened to come to the end of his fuse. I only used it as a generic representation of an extreme encounter. Clear enough?
The "victim blaming" is entirely a figment of your imaginations.
All I'm doing is admitting I'm personally capable of failures in judgment, or character as a cyclist, and that I'm mindful of it, because I don't want to become one of those people we all know. "That Guy"* who constantly complains about problems that are mostly of their own making.
*Just to be perfectly clear, "That Guy" Is entirely generic, and has nothing to do with the cyclist in the video.
__________________
Land of the Free, Because of the Brave.
Land of the Free, Because of the Brave.
04-17-17, 10:20 PM
#56
Cycle Year Round
04-17-17, 10:31 PM
#57
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 20,435
Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones
Mentioned: 178 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5888 Post(s)
Liked 3,471 Times
in
2,079 Posts
Life was better when people only went postal; now they want to go Trump. Something's been lost.
04-17-17, 11:01 PM
#58
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Kent Wa.
Posts: 5,332
Bikes: 2005 Gazelle Golfo, 1935 Raleigh Sport, 1970 Robin Hood sport, 1974 Schwinn Continental, 1984 Ross MTB/porteur, 2013 Flying Piegon path racer, 2014 Gazelle Toer Populair T8
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 396 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times
in
7 Posts
I was commenting on this post, nothing more nothing less.
Life is so much easier here in the Northeast.
We get mad, we just toss some insults back and forth, maybe mixed with a gesture or two and, of course, references to mothers, then go our separate ways. 10-20 seconds and done.
Who has the time or patience for a long drawn out tirade?
We get mad, we just toss some insults back and forth, maybe mixed with a gesture or two and, of course, references to mothers, then go our separate ways. 10-20 seconds and done.
Who has the time or patience for a long drawn out tirade?
04-18-17, 04:43 AM
#60
Tortoise Wins by a Hare!
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Looney Tunes, IL
Posts: 7,398
Bikes: Wabi Special FG, Raleigh Roper, Nashbar AL-1, Miyata One Hundred, '70 Schwinn Lemonator and More!!
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1549 Post(s)
Liked 941 Times
in
504 Posts
Had that happened to me I'd have been scared but also confident that I could get myself out of it one way or another without serious injury. After that it would only solidify my resolve to ride the road. Say no to bullies.
04-18-17, 12:07 PM
#61
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 3,947
Bikes: Trek 1100 road bike, Roadmaster gravel/commuter/beater mountain bike
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2281 Post(s)
Liked 1,710 Times
in
936 Posts
Unfortunately people who get involved in such encounters on a regular basis always think it's everyone else who's at fault.
04-18-17, 01:00 PM
#62
Senior Member
04-18-17, 01:13 PM
#63
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,229
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18409 Post(s)
Liked 15,520 Times
in
7,324 Posts
Life is so much easier here in the Northeast.
We get mad, we just toss some insults back and forth, maybe mixed with a gesture or two and, of course, references to mothers, then go our separate ways. 10-20 seconds and done.
Who has the time or patience for a long drawn out tirade?
We get mad, we just toss some insults back and forth, maybe mixed with a gesture or two and, of course, references to mothers, then go our separate ways. 10-20 seconds and done.
Who has the time or patience for a long drawn out tirade?
04-18-17, 10:07 PM
#64
Cycle Year Round
Sadly, many of the bullies never mentally matured past the 8th grade, like surfer dude. These aged bullies see cyclist as the geek kid, so they often go after the perceived weak kid until a cyclist stands up to them.
__________________
Land of the Free, Because of the Brave.
Land of the Free, Because of the Brave.
04-19-17, 08:59 AM
#66
Senior Member
04-20-17, 11:53 AM
#67
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 3,947
Bikes: Trek 1100 road bike, Roadmaster gravel/commuter/beater mountain bike
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2281 Post(s)
Liked 1,710 Times
in
936 Posts
The geek kid in 8th grade is correct that it is always the bully kids fault. It does not make a difference how many times one bully beats him up or if many bullies beat him up, it is always the bullies fault.
Sadly, many of the bullies never mentally matured past the 8th grade, like surfer dude. These aged bullies see cyclist as the geek kid, so they often go after the perceived weak kid until a cyclist stands up to them.
Sadly, many of the bullies never mentally matured past the 8th grade, like surfer dude. These aged bullies see cyclist as the geek kid, so they often go after the perceived weak kid until a cyclist stands up to them.
04-20-17, 01:34 PM
#69
genec
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: West Coast
Posts: 27,079
Bikes: custom built, sannino, beachbike, giant trance x2
Mentioned: 86 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13658 Post(s)
Liked 4,532 Times
in
3,158 Posts
None of the follow on news stories indicate that... He did publicly apologize through CBS news, when they confronted him.... sort of shoe on the other foot, eh?
Newport Beach Police Department was supposedly investigating... but I didn't find any reports of follow-up. Apparently the PD did tweet this:
https://pvcycling.wordpress.com/tag/...-robert-lewis/
Newport Beach Police Department was supposedly investigating... but I didn't find any reports of follow-up. Apparently the PD did tweet this:
https://pvcycling.wordpress.com/tag/...-robert-lewis/
04-20-17, 03:32 PM
#70
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,760
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1109 Post(s)
Liked 1,200 Times
in
760 Posts
The only case in which I sat as a juror was an assault and weapons misconduct case. The guy was guilty of assault (I forget which degree, probably a lower one) because he fit this definition:
An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm. It is both a crime and a tort and, therefore, may result in either criminal and/or civil liability. (in my case it was a criminal offense, I believe a high degree misdemeanor.).
I hope the cyclist presses charges; that guy made a real threat and, in my opinion, an insincere apology.
An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm. It is both a crime and a tort and, therefore, may result in either criminal and/or civil liability. (in my case it was a criminal offense, I believe a high degree misdemeanor.).
I hope the cyclist presses charges; that guy made a real threat and, in my opinion, an insincere apology.
04-20-17, 03:52 PM
#71
Cycle Year Round
This article presents the attitude that some surfers also carry over on our roads towards cyclist.
A 'fort' built by accused Lunada Bay surf bullies has been demolished ? will it end their localism? - LA Times
I have been confronted with it both in California and Hawaii.
A 'fort' built by accused Lunada Bay surf bullies has been demolished ? will it end their localism? - LA Times
I have been confronted with it both in California and Hawaii.
__________________
Land of the Free, Because of the Brave.
Land of the Free, Because of the Brave.
04-20-17, 04:57 PM
#72
genec
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: West Coast
Posts: 27,079
Bikes: custom built, sannino, beachbike, giant trance x2
Mentioned: 86 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13658 Post(s)
Liked 4,532 Times
in
3,158 Posts
This article presents the attitude that some surfers also carry over on our roads towards cyclist.
A 'fort' built by accused Lunada Bay surf bullies has been demolished ? will it end their localism? - LA Times
I have been confronted with it both in California and Hawaii.
A 'fort' built by accused Lunada Bay surf bullies has been demolished ? will it end their localism? - LA Times
I have been confronted with it both in California and Hawaii.
In CA, all beaches are public up to the mean high tide mark.
This is NOT the case all over the US though. In WA, a landowner on the beach owns the ocean out to historic low tide mark. I understand it is somewhat similar in some of the Northeastern seaboard states like Massachusetts. Florida too allows ownership of beaches. Thus California is somewhat unique.
Of course, none of this justifies "Surfer Boy's" attitude. Where he really fails is that cyclists have rights to the road, motorists are granted permission to drive on the road... Surfer Boy is so far off the mark it is ludicrous.
04-20-17, 06:37 PM
#73
Cycle Year Round
The mentally ill guy giving me trouble in my earlier post was half Hawaiian, but his anger was mostly the illness. He was raised right by a white WWII army veteran grandfather and Japanese grandmother. His, get them pregnant and run, father gave him his Hawaiian genes. With him gone, no such problems for me the last several years.
.
__________________
Land of the Free, Because of the Brave.
Land of the Free, Because of the Brave.
Last edited by CB HI; 04-20-17 at 07:59 PM.
04-20-17, 10:36 PM
#74
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Down Under
Posts: 1,936
Bikes: A steel framed 26" off road tourer from a manufacturer who thinks they are cool. Giant Anthem. Trek 720 Multiroad pub bike. 10 kids bikes all under 20". Assorted waifs and unfinished projects.
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1188 Post(s)
Liked 1,154 Times
in
640 Posts
We have a word for guys like that in Australia, it rhymes with Runt.
