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    Can you believe this crap!!

    Valentin Zeller of Austria crossed the line after a ride, the low point of which was almost certainly being dowsed with gasoline by passing motorist near Camdenton, Missouri

    http://www.raceacrossamerica.org/fil...port063005.htm
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    why?? why would anyone do that? it's sick, like kicking a puppy kind of sick. those kind of people are lesser humans than the rest of us.

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    Anyone hear if legal action was involved?
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    If I were them, I'd call the cops and report it as attempted murder and say the driver/passengers had a lighter waiting.
    They want to mess around, you can mess around too when you decide to bring the charges on.

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    No doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slvoid
    If I were them, I'd call the cops and report it as attempted murder and say the driver/passengers had a lighter waiting.
    They want to mess around, you can mess around too when you decide to bring the charges on.
    I'm thinking that even without the lighter It could be fatal, just from the fact that you may ingest a lot of it. Metal to metal on a bike somewhere could make a spark too.

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    How do you douse somebody with gas from a car while they're on a bike? Do you have a pail full of gas in the back of a pickup and someone back there to dump it on them? Were they carrying gas in the passenger compartment in a coke cup? Seems like it would have to be very premeditated.

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    well, when my dad and i would go camping, we'd often have a canister of fuel in the back. whether it was used for motorcycles or the boat motor we would seldom be without it. people in rural areas often have a need to carry seperate gasoline too. it could be for a lawn mower, gas generator, chainsaw, etc...

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    But it won't come out of a gas can fast enough for a good dousing. I'd think it'd take at least a giant sized soda cup and a very good aim.

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    nah, i think this would do. the article give no details, so we don't know how much gas actually got on her. but i'm confident that i could lean out of a window and soak someone with a simple container like this:


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    Well, that's assult with a deadly weapon, which is a federal crime (I believe). I'd get them with some prison time.... that's just sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike nut
    Can you believe this crap!!

    Valentin Zeller of Austria crossed the line after a ride, the low point of which was almost certainly being dowsed with gasoline by passing motorist near Camdenton, Missouri

    http://www.raceacrossamerica.org/fil...port063005.htm
    That should give him fond memories of this country.

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    I don't know. I'm having a hard time picturing this. A couple of yahoo's driving down the road, see a bike up ahead, come up with the idea of dumping gas on a cyclist, and have time to get the gas can, uncork it or transfer the gas into a container suitable for dousing, and accurately use it? Not many seconds from the time you would identify a bike before they would be overtaken. Who carries gas in the passenger compartment?

    I'm trying to think of some other fluid that could be mistaken for gasoline that would be more likely. Either that or they were planning on dumping gas on a bike and were out looking. And then why gas unless they were planning on lighting them up?

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    There was a hit on a cop in L.A. a while back, two bike riders rode by the cop car, one dumped in gas, next one threw in match. Pretty good ploy, my understand is it worked, and I wonder if the car drivers were, fortunately, unable to do the 2nd, fire-starting part.

    Folks, as Peak Oil plays out, we can expect the car-supremacists to get pretty crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phinney
    I don't know. I'm having a hard time picturing this. A couple of yahoo's driving down the road, see a bike up ahead, come up with the idea of dumping gas on a cyclist, and have time to get the gas can, uncork it or transfer the gas into a container suitable for dousing, and accurately use it? Not many seconds from the time you would identify a bike before they would be overtaken. Who carries gas in the passenger compartment?

    I'm trying to think of some other fluid that could be mistaken for gasoline that would be more likely. Either that or they were planning on dumping gas on a bike and were out looking. And then why gas unless they were planning on lighting them up?

    Well, yes, but maybe they went by the bicyclist, doubled back after a U-turn or down some other parallel road, and then did the dastardly deed. Or maybe seeing other riders (it was race, right?) gave them the idea and he was the one in the wrong place in the wrong time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2manybikes
    I'm thinking that even without the lighter It could be fatal, just from the fact that you may ingest a lot of it. Metal to metal on a bike somewhere could make a spark too.
    Would the friction between brakes and tires be enough to cause any problems?

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    In a local race out in the country, some "locals" passed the peleton and threated to smash into them on the next lap. The CHP was called and then guys got a talking to.

    Its likely that the "locals" knew RAAM was comming throuhg their town and thouhg it would be a funny prank.

    throwing liquids out of cars at high speeds is pretty challenging, although it could be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UCSDbikeAnarchy
    throwing liquids out of cars at high speeds is pretty challenging, although it could be done.
    Yes, to be honest that is correct. Muchthe same can be said for rocks, even those thrown by people on the side of the road. I had numerous rock throwing incidents on my world tour, and got hit exactly once; from behind, with little overall effect.


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    and I was mad over just a coke can.

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    Hell you don't even need to ingest it, just having it absorbed through the skin is bad enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilHinault
    Folks, as Peak Oil plays out, we can expect the car-supremacists to get pretty crazy.
    Before or after Y2K?
    This is Africa, 1943. War spits out its violence overhead and the sandy graveyard swallows it up. Her name is King Nine, B-25, medium bomber, Twelfth Air Force. On a hot, still morning she took off from Tunisia to bomb the southern tip of Italy. An errant piece of flak tore a hole in a wing tank and, like a wounded bird, this is where she landed, not to return on this day, or any other day.

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    dobber whew, thanks!! You saved me from a real misunderstanding there! Peak Oil's not a problem, I was all wrong. Oil's gonna be around forever, in neverending quantities.

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    I remeber some effing kids who used to pull this crap, they used super soakers, filled them up, broke the nozzles so it blew the entire tank at once, and fired.

    However the "effing kids" were using bleach...i do recall all of them getting Jr lockup until 18.

    As for these guys, that's assault for sure. How far I dunno....but gasoline I would call it attempted murder....that's just BS.

    ...it's even more dangerous as gasoline absorbs moisture, thus accelerating dehydration, also the petroleum distillates in it can poison a person through excessive contact. These guys deserve something severe.


    Now if they wanted to be helpful, throw a few gel packs at em! at least something useful...sheesh....I know a few wekend rides I wish someone would hurl an unopened bottle of water or a gel pack at me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilHinault
    dobber whew, thanks!! You saved me from a real misunderstanding there! Peak Oil's not a problem, I was all wrong. Oil's gonna be around forever, in neverending quantities.
    Life isn't a FX movie special, silly wabbit.
    This is Africa, 1943. War spits out its violence overhead and the sandy graveyard swallows it up. Her name is King Nine, B-25, medium bomber, Twelfth Air Force. On a hot, still morning she took off from Tunisia to bomb the southern tip of Italy. An errant piece of flak tore a hole in a wing tank and, like a wounded bird, this is where she landed, not to return on this day, or any other day.

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