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Old 09-15-05, 06:29 PM   #1
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The Face of Critical Mass

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My mind has been changed....
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Can you post some pics of the blocked traffic?
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Can you post some pics of the blocked traffic?
Sure! how about these?
you might notice a curious lack of bikes...they do fine blocking themselves, it seems...
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Were they all arrested?
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Actually, I believe this is the face of Critical Mass.........as the dirty hippies section rolls by.

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Yeah, mine as well...I'm beginning to see the communal benefit of riding with hippies that have plastic milk crates lashed to their racks and stickers on their bikes that read, "I do drunk chicks".

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For a bunch of people supposedly dedicated to the high-and-mighty cause of promoting safe and peaceful bicycling, there sure are a lot of people without helmets. What a pathetic line of BS.

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For a bunch of people supposedly dedicated to the high-and-mighty cause of promoting safe and peaceful bicycling, there sure are a lot of people without helmets. What a pathetic line of BS.
This thread is like reading the results of a Rosarch Test given to BF "advocates". The advocates see what they want to see.

I see the lack of comments from the BF advocates about the narrow age and race makeup of the alleged advocate-participants. What city's bicycling population are these pictured "advocates" supposed to represent? I see on picture #85 the Chicago City flag. Photo #109 and 110 are definitely Chicago. Somehow I don't think this crowd is representative of the population (cycling or non-cycling) of the City of Chicago. Maybe the University of Chicago and a few alumni.

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Good photography.

I especially liked the young woman "in disguise" with the fake mustache.
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For a bunch of people supposedly dedicated to the high-and-mighty cause of promoting safe and peaceful bicycling, there sure are a lot of people without helmets. What a pathetic line of BS.

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Oh get off your high horse. You are miffed because these "nuveux" cyclists do not meet your "standards." There are a lot of people out there who will never belong to any bicycle club, any advocacy group, or even show up on any training ride.

They are called the poor, urban negro black colored African-Americans who can't afford cars and really do depend on bicycles for their lives. And, you know what? They outnumber the membership of all the bicycle clubs in America.

You can't see them. They are invisible, because the media really don't care about them. But, every now and then, if you look at enough hurrican photos, they are there.
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Cool, thanks.
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Oh get off your high horse. You are miffed because these "nuveux" cyclists do not meet your "standards." There are a lot of people out there who will never belong to any bicycle club, any advocacy group, or even show up on any training ride.

They are called the poor, urban negro black colored African-Americans who can't afford cars and really do depend on bicycles for their lives. And, you know what? They outnumber the membership of all the bicycle clubs in America.

You can't see them. They are invisible, because the media really don't care about them. But, every now and then, if you look at enough hurrican photos, they are there.
OK, I think I kind of almost agree with you on this one. Even a $30 helmet can seem a great expense when you worry about where the next meal is coming from. Over here it is day laborers from Mexico, Ccentral, and South America and they don't wear helmets either but they mostly stick to sidewalks. Before anyone flames me, I am well aware you can crack your head open on a sidewalk and your sister's, brothers, Cousins, cousin once fell on a sidewalk and spread his brains across half the city. The question we really need to ask is if THEY (the ones riding on the sidewalk) see it this way and why not? Too bad helmets aren't durable enough to be found in usable condition in the garbage, or garage sales like bikes are.
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For a bunch of people supposedly dedicated to the high-and-mighty cause of promoting safe and peaceful bicycling, there sure are a lot of people without helmets. What a pathetic line of BS.

- Warren
A helmet is going to prevent you from getting run over by a motor car? Give me a break. Helmets don't make cycling safer, they just help prevent or lessen head injuries. Maybe drivers should wear them too.
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Cool photographs. Lots of great faces in there.
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Oh get off your high horse. You are miffed because these "nuveux" cyclists do not meet your "standards." There are a lot of people out there who will never belong to any bicycle club, any advocacy group, or even show up on any training ride.
Then it sounds to me like these "nuveux" cyclists (whatever the hell you're trying to say) aren't doing jack for bicycle advocacy.


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They are called the poor, urban negro black colored African-Americans who can't afford cars and really do depend on bicycles for their lives. And, you know what? They outnumber the membership of all the bicycle clubs in America.

WHAT?! I saw TWO black dudes on all eight pages of photos. One was riding a custom novelty bike that surely wasn't a hand-me-down from his great-grandfather the sharecropper, and the other was wearing matching athletic apparel.

Are you really trying to tell me that the reason critical mass riders don't wear helmets is because they're all oppressed African-Americans who can't afford them? I'm talking about the well-nourished, chubby-cheeked white girls riding around on nice road bikes, without helmets, in a ride supposedly aimed at improving bicycle safety.


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You can't see them. They are invisible, because the media really don't care about them. But, every now and then, if you look at enough hurrican photos, they are there.

Apparently your very own comrade photo-journalist also totally missed this important and dominant segment of the critical mass ride: the poor, black, oppressed... vehicular cyclist. Damn, it must have been really hard to get eight pages of photographs of all white people when there were so damn many poor oppressed black people everywhere.

And what's up with the hurricane photo comment? Whenever anyone tries to lure you into debate, you just throw out a shotgun pattern of unrelated inflammatory bull****, hoping that no one will notice that you just dodged the question.

I'll ask it again: Why are there so many chubby-cheeked white people riding without helmets in a ride supposedly intending to improve bicycle safety?

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Old 09-16-05, 12:42 PM   #19
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I'll ask it again: Why are there so many chubby-cheeked white people riding without helmets in a ride supposedly intending to improve bicycle safety?

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Because helmets are hot:


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"Because helmets are hot?"

Do you actually have an answer? Can you at least stay true to form and start throwing out references to Uncle Tom and the Selma March? Maybe the concentration camps of WWII? I'm sure you can fabricate some connection between chubby white girls not wearing helmets on a Chicago critical mass bike ride and Auschwitz, can't you? Or, are you getting soft?

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Chubby white girls bicycling naked in public is cause for a charge of outraging public decency, with intent to commit acts of lewdness. A felony in most states requiring registration as a sex offender. With such a heinous, socially unacceptable label, the sex offender might as well be sent to gas chambers.

Why are public displays of women's nipples criminal and men's are not?
Are you mentally ********, or what?

I'm talking about the chubby white girls in the pictures on smugmug that you posted in the original post in this thread. You know, the ones this thread is about. The poor, oppressed, urban, black-colored negros who are actually white, chubby, affluent vehicular cyclists. They're on a bike ride that you personally see as the loftiest purpose in mankind's universe, diligently claim as supporting bicycle advocacy, and they aren't wearing helmets. Why?

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They are called the poor, urban negro black colored African-Americans who can't afford cars and really do depend on bicycles for their lives. And, you know what? They outnumber the membership of all the bicycle clubs in America.
Now that's just plain rubbish. How un-high-horse of you to stand up for the impoverished "colored African-Americans".
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You can't see them. They are invisible, because the media really don't care about them. But, every now and then, if you look at enough hurrican photos, they are there.
Well if your theory is correct, then we should see a hellofa lot of bikes emerge once the waters have subsided.

Let's leave race out of this and all other threads, shall we? Someone who pulls the race card is just desperately grasping at the threads of a cop-out. Besides, the term "colored" just reeks of 50's-ish ignorance.

It's always safe to bet that when someone starts-out their rebuttal with "get off your high-horse", chances are it's an involuntary response invoked by the inability to say anything relevant.

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I'll ask it again: Why are there so many chubby-cheeked white people riding without helmets in a ride supposedly intending to improve bicycle safety?
I'll answer with a very simple question for you: Why the F. should they? - because YOU think they offer some significant risk reduction?

Well here's the skinny -these cyclists do not answer to you or any other members of the safety nanny gendarmes; and obviously don't share your opinion about the value of helmets. Is that a good enough answer for you? If not, T.S.

Additional response - what's your problem with chubby white girls? I'm rather fond of women of any color, chubby or not, so the heck with you.
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Are you mentally ********, or what?

I'm talking about the chubby white girls in the pictures on smugmug that you posted in the original post in this thread. You know, the ones this thread is about. The poor, oppressed, urban, black-colored negros who are actually white, chubby, affluent vehicular cyclists. They're on a bike ride that you personally see as the loftiest purpose in mankind's universe, diligently claim as supporting bicycle advocacy, and they aren't wearing helmets. Why?

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Because wether or not they are wearing helmets is irrelevant to wether or not it's legal for a large group of cyclists to gather and ride down public streets without fear of arrest. If there is a helmet law then that would be relevant, but you are just digging up some ad-hominin attack because you disagree with critical mass. Who gives a fart if they're white or chubby, talk about pointless. It looks like a fairly diverse spectrum of riders to me. I'm sure if you went to any other advocacy meeting from whatever town these pictures were taken (Chicago?) and it would be fairly representative of the cycling community. I think the point of such pictures is that these aren't a bunch of anarchists or hippies as so many anti-CM folks are quick to claim.
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Because helmets are hot.
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