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    Best way to set up eyeglass mounted mirror

    I wanted some help on best setting up an eye glass mounted rear view mirror - specifically the standard Take-A-Look.

    Background: I have on again off again used this mirror in the past year. Longest stretch was about 4wks. I couldn't get used to it, for several reasons, but in this past week of trying it again (I try over and over again as I see great benefit) I think my reason is set up.

    What I find is I bend the main stem so the mirror is toward the top left of my view thru my perscription glasses. But the problem I have is that in order to see over my shoulder I have two choices:
    1. Bend mirror so far up that it is partially obsured by the frame of my glasses, not giving a clear view, even with a slight head tilt upward.
    2. Sit upright everytime I want to glance in mirror. This motion I find very disruptive and why I don't use it when its there. If I'm gonna sit this upright I may as well turn and look behind me for a much better view.

    I just can't find a comfortable middle ground between 1 and 2. Is this normal, what should I try? I am really hoping for a way to adjust it so I can keep my body position still and only need a slight tilt of the head for a clear glance behind me.

    (I'd like to keep this thread primarily to using this type of mirror - there are several older threads on what the best kind of mirror is, threads on how to use a mirror in traffic, etc. Search and you will find them if you want to ressurect those 'debates')

    Al

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    Tilt the mirror angle so you are seeing the left lane of the road or farther left when you are looking straight ahead, then when you need to look rotate your head slightly so the mirror pans across the lane behind you. This is how these eyeglass mirrors are supposed to work I understand. I had the same problem initially until someone pointed this out to me. On the recumbent I don't need to worry about it as my shoulder doesn't get in the way in that position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul L.
    Tilt the mirror angle so you are seeing the left lane of the road or farther left when you are looking straight ahead, then when you need to look rotate your head slightly so the mirror pans across the lane behind you.
    I didn't mention this in my first post, but the left twist of head part is already there - I had previously read in other thread this is how to set it up, so had forgotten to mention it. But my shoulder (and bad strap and top of bag) still block 80% of the view. So then I bend up the main support shaft of the mirror (and angle the face right again) so the mirror is higher to clear over my shoulder and then I have these body positioning issues.

    I hope/know I'll get it, but I find it very frustrating that I can't adjust it while riding and that the little neighborhood adjustment jaunts I go on just don't reflect how I ride when I get going. (and my neighbors must think I'm crazy )

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    The bag on the back adds a big degree of blockage. I found even with a rain coat it was difficult to see over my should when riding .
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    So do these eyeglass mirrors not work with bags on the back? That is a thing I don't think I can change.

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    That is why I use a handle bar mirror on my commuter... I never got used to the tiny mirror on my glasses and didn't like the added weight.

    The handle bar mirror is just like a motorcycle mirror or (dare I say it... an automotive mirror). About the only time I cannot use it is when I am out of the saddle.

    I really miss it on my other bike... I find myself looking for it automatically.

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    I think a handlebar mirror will work perfect with bullhorns which I have on my primary commuter. Are some handlebar mirrors better than others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noisebeam
    I think a handlebar mirror will work perfect with bullhorns which I have on my primary commuter. Are some handlebar mirrors better than others?
    Having tried several, I think the Mirrycle offered the best view.

    http://www.mirrycle.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by genec
    Having tried several, I think the Mirrycle offered the best view.

    http://www.mirrycle.com/
    Thats the name I was looking for. But it looks like they don't have one that mounts on bullhorns very well. That would take a mirror stem that is straight as the bar end sticks up nearly vertically.

    I know the LBS sells one, but not sure of the brand and if the mirror surface will be good, the stabilty (minimal vibration low) and if the curvature of the mirror is right (too wide vs. too narrow a view)

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    Quote Originally Posted by noisebeam
    Thats the name I was looking for. But it looks like they don't have one that mounts on bullhorns very well. That would take a mirror stem that is straight as the bar end sticks up nearly vertically.

    I know the LBS sells one, but not sure of the brand and if the mirror surface will be good, the stabilty (minimal vibration low) and if the curvature of the mirror is right (too wide vs. too narrow a view)

    Al
    The vibration and curvature are the issues that sold me... they seemed very acceptable with the Mirrycle. The mirrors on a rather flexable whip were really no good, and I saw some with a convex that was outragous... you could not really see anything beyond the rear of the bike. The Mirrycle curvature is quite a bit more flat, and the mounting system has several "wrists" that allow for adjustment for angle and rotation.

    Their mounting system for bar ends might work for you... the mountain Mirrycle. Not sure what your bullhorn handle bars configuration looks like...

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    Are you using the long or short stem Take-a-look? Because it does make a difference...my preference for helmets and glasses is the long stem. The short stem only works well on baseball cap bills, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randya
    Are you using the long or short stem Take-a-look? Because it does make a difference...my preference for helmets and glasses is the long stem. The short stem only works well on baseball cap bills, IMO.
    I bought the short stem about a year ago, but never got it to work, so I returned it. About 6mo. ago I bought the long stem (standard) version and still can't get it adjusted to a positoin that lets me turn my head a bit to the left and see what is going on behind me. All I see is the very top of my shoulder, my bag strap and mostly the top of my bag. When I am wearing a looser shirt it puffs up a little bit and blocks the entire view (it only takes about 2" of height above my shoulder to block the entire rear view.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by noisebeam
    I bought the short stem about a year ago, but never got it to work, so I returned it. About 6mo. ago I bought the long stem (standard) version and still can't get it adjusted to a positoin that lets me turn my head a bit to the left and see what is going on behind me. All I see is the very top of my shoulder, my bag strap and mostly the top of my bag. When I am wearing a looser shirt it puffs up a little bit and blocks the entire view (it only takes about 2" of height above my shoulder to block the entire rear view.)

    Al
    Hmmm....I adjust mine so i see the strap of my helmet and the top of my shoulder (both, barely) in the right / lower edge of the mirror...you might need (for a wider BMX helmet) to bend the metal bracket a bit; probable up and either out or down...I'm not trying to flame you, just trying to help; the long-stem TAL mirror works great for me on one helmet w/ multiple bikes...but I ride pretty upright and if you're riding in the drops it might be a little harder to get a good view, and a handlebar mirror might work better...

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    The normal view in my 3rd Eye mirror is my should. When I want to look behind I lean my head to the right so the mirror is raised enough to give a sight line over my shoulder - I can then pivot my head to give the view directly behind or the lane to my right or left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewP
    The normal view in my 3rd Eye mirror is my should. When I want to look behind I lean my head to the right so the mirror is raised enough to give a sight line over my shoulder - I can then pivot my head to give the view directly behind or the lane to my right or left.
    Thats a new idea for me to try: Tilting the head to the right. I too have mine set up so I see the top of my shoulder and a small edge of my ear. The wire is bend up and to the left to do this.
    I don't think of myself as riding in a very 'dropped' position (this is on a bike with bullhorns) but I do find if I sit unnaturally upright I can get a view behind me - but there is not way I can sit upright this way everytime I want to scan behind me. So I'll try the tilting the head bit. Thanks

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    I had the problem of only seeing my shoulder in the mirror, and found that if I rotated the mirror up it gave me a good view. Think of the normal picture of the mirror, but then rotate it 180 degrees so the mirror is above the bracket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dchiefransom
    I had the problem of only seeing my shoulder in the mirror, and found that if I rotated the mirror up it gave me a good view. Think of the normal picture of the mirror, but then rotate it 180 degrees so the mirror is above the bracket.
    I actually bent the wire to position the mirror this high. The problem is that it gets above the top edge of my glasses, so I'd be looking over the top edge of the frame to see into the mirror, which doesn't work.

    I do appreciate the advice, please don't take my 'but that doesn't work' as a lack of appreciation for the inputs everyone is giving.

    Al

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