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    Crash pictures

    My brother brought over the pictures he took of me after my crash back in August (see the thread "Ran over from behind" on this forum for details). These were taken about 2 weeks after the crash, but before going back to the hospital another week for infections.

    One picture shows the road where I was hit, looking back.

    http://members.aol.com/j999w/crash

    No pictures of the bike ... the sheriff still has it and I haven't seen it yet.

    (I tried uploading thumbnails but my browser keeps crashing).

    Stay safe.

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    road rash AND poison ivy.... yikes!
    You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. That's great...if you want to attract vermin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Wilke
    (I tried uploading thumbnails but my browser keeps crashing).

    Or you could just post as images instead of thumbnails.

    Anyway .... ouch!!!

    d.tipton

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    looks pretty serious, John. i'm glad you survived but it's gotta be hard to deal with

    are you gonna try to get back on a bike again later on?

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    Thanks for uploading the pics !

    I just tried getting on the trainer, but couldn't figure out how to do it without falling over ... too stiff, too SORE, and too scared.

    Will keep tryiing.

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    Damn nasty crash. That road is like um well strait as a damn arrow.
    Shouldnt be no reason for a motorist t hit a cyclists there. With that strait of a road and huge sight distance.

    That car in the left lane has to be half a mile pluss away and its still visable.

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    Smallest bikelane i've ever seen.
    Touch every 3rd person and you'll find an idiot.

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    Hi John,

    Thanks for sharing the pix. I personally would never ride on a major road w/o a shoulder (like in your pic)... I'd just be too afraid to do so. When I do ride on a major road w/a shoulder I ride against traffic so I can make a quick exit if I see anyone coming at me. We have a lot of drunks and elderly people (w/cataracts(sp)) on the roads where I live so I'm always paranoid. You must feel very lucky to be alive! Hopefully over time, your injuries will heal well...

    I feel for you because I had my first bike wreck on September 14th (no vehicle involved) and I'll have lifelong problems from it. I landed on my chin and chest at about 25mph and rammed my lower jaw back into my ears, snapping off the condyles (round parts that fit inside the joint). The best treatment is 'no treatment' so I'm learning to deal with my new situation and appearance. My specialist informed me yesterday that my type of injury is usually associated with severe neck injuries as well, so I feel lucky to be alive and whole. It could be a lot worse for both of us! I remind myself of this daily while trying to stay Positive. My situation was posted in the bike mechanics section because I initially wanted to know about why my front brake locked up. My bike was uninjured...

    Hang in there!
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    well I hope that little bit of exploitation makes you feel better. People should put that much effort in what their doing in the first place. don't show those pictures around to too many people. they might detect the anger you harbor. those aren't the types of memories we wanna share when we look back on our bicycling lifestyle

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    Somebody will explain how this is good for cycling here in a minute. I'll scratch my head and move on. I wish you all the best, but have always felt this forum is far too full of these horror stories. It does not one single thing to promote safety or advocacy.

    It does create a lot of fear however. I have to admit that it makes me shudder. But i will ride tomorrow, just like today. THe OP got ran over from behind. I don't think there is much that can be done about that. What we can control, is this continuing current of fear that gets perpetuated by said stories. THese instances ARE rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger
    THe OP got ran over from behind. I don't think there is much that can be done about that. What we can control, is this continuing current of fear that gets perpetuated by said stories. THese instances ARE rare.
    Well, _someone_ didn't have his car in control that certain day! If these crashes are so rare, why do I have a $65,000 hospital bill?

    Over 500 cylists a year are *killed* each year. I was almost one of them and still have daily pain 2 1/2 months after. It's my hope that maybe, just maybe, someone will see my picture, think a little more about driving or riding more safely and avoid a crash. No one will even know it happened, they will simply all go on their merry way. Excellent.

    I have no desire to reduce the enjoyment people have in cycling, it's a great sport, but it's important for more people to have a respect for others on the road, and behave in a safe manner.

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    John,
    Donít worry about the people that want to bury their heads in the sand. Understanding the mechanics of mishaps, as well as the statistics of how rare they are, is a part of safety and mishap prevention.

    Thanks for the information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Wilke
    Well, _someone_ didn't have his car in control that certain day! If these crashes are so rare, why do I have a $65,000 hospital bill?

    Over 500 cylists a year are *killed* each year. I was almost one of them and still have daily pain 2 1/2 months after. It's my hope that maybe, just maybe, someone will see my picture, think a little more about driving or riding more safely and avoid a crash. No one will even know it happened, they will simply all go on their merry way. Excellent.

    I have no desire to reduce the enjoyment people have in cycling, it's a great sport, but it's important for more people to have a respect for others on the road, and behave in a safe manner.

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    Perhaps you missed my point. I think we agree. There was nothing you could do about it, so what can be gained in terms of safety information? I contend....NOTHING. I read several people say that you should have done something different in your original thread. I disagreed.

    I am sorry you had this happen but still contend that nothing can be gleened from your accident to promote safety. All it can do is promote the notion that cycling is dangerous. Of course, from your perspective it is. I can see why you feel that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger
    Perhaps you missed my point. I think we agree. There was nothing you could do about it, so what can be gained in terms of safety information? I contend....NOTHING. I read several people say that you should have done something different in your original thread. I disagreed.

    I am sorry you had this happen but still contend that nothing can be gleened from your accident to promote safety. All it can do is promote the notion that cycling is dangerous. Of course, from your perspective it is. I can see why you feel that way.
    The hit and run driver that mowed me down didn't act in a safe or responsible manner at all. Seems like some behavior modification is called for there ! Grrrrr.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger
    Somebody will explain how this is good for cycling here in a minute. I'll scratch my head and move on. I wish you all the best, but have always felt this forum is far too full of these horror stories. It does not one single thing to promote safety or advocacy.

    It does create a lot of fear however. I have to admit that it makes me shudder. But i will ride tomorrow, just like today. THe OP got ran over from behind. I don't think there is much that can be done about that. What we can control, is this continuing current of fear that gets perpetuated by said stories. THese instances ARE rare.
    well, we could pretend like it never happens. come on, either way, people get hurt and will continue to do so regardless of whether or not people share their crash stories. it doesn't help, but it doesn't hurt, either. <BR> i also strongly suspect that in addition to alerting friends of recovery, there's also a bit of pride...i got f...ed up pretty badly once myself, and i saw the road rash and chipped teeth and bloody wounds on my limbs as battle scars to be proud of. i'm a dumb young buck, though, full of pi$$ and vinegar, you might say...

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    Thank you very much for posting your pictures. If they make one cyclist a little more cautious on the road it is worth it. It is a healthy reminder that "This could happen to you". I personally hope that everyone that experiences such an incident will share it, whether or not it causes injury. Complacency Kills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Wilke
    One picture shows the road where I was hit, looking back.
    --- The shoulders on that road seem plenty wide enough to accomodate a paved bike lane. If your local bicycle advocacy group lobbied the county/state to fund such a project, it could prevent another cyclist from suffering a "Rash Badge of Courage".
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    thats gotta hurt real bad

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    There are many a cyclist can do to help prevent SOME accidents. Bright clothing, blinkers front and rear, etc.

    The real problem is trying to get driver awareness. Although the road looked quite narrow, I've been grazed by a driver while commuting on a 4 lane blvd. Plenty of room for Mr Driver. He just was't paying attention.

    The sad truth (at least in my area) is that we still aren't promoted enough. Wouldn't it be cool to see some articles in the morning paper about cyclists, commuters, how buses have bike racks on them, about the new signage installed warning drivers to be careful, about how we are trying to save gas, about how we are trying to be healthy? Wow! What a concept!

    John Wilke, sorry about your accident. I hope it doesn't keep you off your bike. Get well soon!
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    Has there been any progress on identifying the motorist, John?

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    I dont like some drivers somtimes they honk at me for nothing and its all the driver fault
    Some people use this helpful tool to manage speed and distance
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHOOP
    I dont like some drivers somtimes they honk at me for nothing and its all the driver fault
    Some people use this helpful tool to manage speed and distance
    A BIKE COMPUTER

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger
    Somebody will explain how this is good for cycling here in a minute. I'll scratch my head and move on. I wish you all the best, but have always felt this forum is far too full of these horror stories. It does not one single thing to promote safety or advocacy.

    It does create a lot of fear however. I have to admit that it makes me shudder. But i will ride tomorrow, just like today. THe OP got ran over from behind. I don't think there is much that can be done about that. What we can control, is this continuing current of fear that gets perpetuated by said stories. THese instances ARE rare.
    Not everything that gets posted on these forums has to be "good" for cycling. Or do you only want to be exposed to the sanitized version of life and cycling. Guess what people crash, cyclists doing everything right get nailed by inattentive drivers, and if folks can't share their experiences good and bad on this forum then the whole thing becomes a useless sham.

    Cyclists need to have a healthy dose of reality based fear when they move amongst cars and trucks that could end their lives. Believing yourself to be invincible is just as bad as being too fearful to go riding.
    If you only want to talk about the happy side of cycling stay in the general cycling thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullethead
    Thank you very much for posting your pictures. If they make one cyclist a little more cautious on the road it is worth it. It is a healthy reminder that "This could happen to you". I personally hope that everyone that experiences such an incident will share it, whether or not it causes injury. Complacency Kills.
    YEAH! anybody got any bloody pictures of themselves or family members, so we can refresh our memorys of what happens if we got hit by a car. WOW! What if you fell off a cliff or something!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger
    Perhaps you missed my point. I think we agree. There was nothing you could do about it, so what can be gained in terms of safety information? I contend....NOTHING. I read several people say that you should have done something different in your original thread. I disagreed.

    I am sorry you had this happen but still contend that nothing can be gleened from your accident to promote safety. All it can do is promote the notion that cycling is dangerous. Of course, from your perspective it is. I can see why you feel that way.
    What makes you think there is nothing to be learnt here regarding safety? A man was almost killed, I would say that there is an opportunity to learn. How do you think safety principles like "it's dangerous to ride on the sidewalk" came about? certainly not by dismissing accidents with "...nothing can be gleened from your accident to promote safety" all you are promoting is IGNORANCE

    Your position is as dangerous as it is ignorant.

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