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Advocacy & Safety Cyclists should expect and demand safe accommodation on every public road, just as do all other users. Discuss your bicycle advocacy and safety concerns here.

View Poll Results: How do you really ride / What is important to you?
I ride VC all the time / arterial streets 13 18.57%
Bike Lanes and Bike Paths for me 1 1.43%
Invisible / side streets / we don't need no stinkin' rules 4 5.71%
Hybrid riding style 48 68.57%
None of the above 4 5.71%
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Old 01-05-06, 01:27 AM   #1
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Old 01-05-06, 01:40 AM   #2
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I checked hybrid which I take to mean that riding style changes to meet the immediate situation.

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Old 01-05-06, 01:59 AM   #3
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Old 01-05-06, 02:11 AM   #4
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I ride fairly close to VC on arterial roads, no doubt HH would find any number of faults with my practice. Off of the main roads I can become a little more cavalier depending on what's out there. As with driving the rules become a bit more negotiable, saving that rule which says don't be the cause of an accident.
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Hybrid. There's some rarely used rail trails and kid cut singletracks I use as shortcuts. Sometimes I'll hop on a bus. Along one part of my route, the cars are speedhappy and won't cut any slack, but the sidewalks go unused.
In case of maniac or plain stupid cagers, survival comes first while VC gets momentarily put on hold.

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I ride the roads in a manner that fits the situation/conditions at the time. I also don't mind riding a trail if there happens to be one going my way.

Fortunately, I don't have to put up with the big city traffic problems that some on this forum live with every day.
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Old 01-05-06, 03:23 AM   #7
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I think they mean Vehicular Cycling (VC). Something like operating as if you were a car. With all the rights and responsibilities of one. In California bikes are legally vehicles and are required to follow the vehicle code. Note: Not MOTOR Vehicle Code, just vehicle code. Except where inherently inapplicable. In my ill-informed ignorance (followers, please correct me) VC as a movement was started by some LAW (oops LAB) members splitting from the LAB (League of American Bicyclists) over some practice and policy differences.
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I ride safely as conditions dictate, I don't need any third-party proprietary branding attached.
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No Rules.....
Roads, sidewalks, bike lanes....whatever it takes to stay out of
peoples and cars way. Without impeding or inconviencing anyone I
do what I need to do to stay safe and have an efficient ride.
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Hybrid. I follow traffic laws, stop at stop lights, ride only on roads (never sidewalks, etc) but I'll ride bike paths if they're there, I roll through some stop signs on back alleys where I can see well down the side street, and on the extremely busy street that I follow for 2 miles, I ride the nice 3 foot shoulder if possible (sometimes not due to heavy rutted snow on the shoulder).
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Hybrid here too.

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I ride VC all the time using bike lanes and bike paths whenever they are present. Bike lanes are always present on "arterials" in my area.
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What the hell are you talking about?
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Since I do not ride on the roads 100%, I put hybrid. When I am on the roads, I will occasionally blow off a late night red light.
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Old 01-05-06, 10:10 AM   #15
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Roads. No bike paths where I live.
Not many stoplights either!
Most stop signs in my part of the world are there for a reason - usually 4 way or T intersections on busy roads.
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Whatever is needed. I ride vc in arterial streets all the time. That is probably a good 80% of my riding. I take bike lanes when they work... I take paths if they exist.

I really like quiet... so quiet side streets or paths are my favorite, as well as long open country roads.

But ya gotta do what you gotta do to get where you are going.

The only thing that really bugs me is being forced into ped mode... bad intersections, and poorly planned paths all do this.
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Hybrid. I ride as conditions permit. Most of my commute through Denver and the Southern Suburbs are on the street. In my suburb of thornton I avoid the main arterial my commute parallels. Instead I take a combination of MUPs and parallel streets. The main MUP is technically an offset sidewalk the city calls a MUP.
No one in their right mind rides 120th ave in the street. You would die a painfull death under the wheels of a soccer mom's SUV.
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I ride vehicularly pretty much all the time, but perhaps not to perfection
Riding vehicularly also allows for the use of BLs, so there is no need to call it hybrid.

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The only thing that really bugs me is being forced into ped mode... bad intersections, and poorly planned paths all do this.
Me, too. Yesterday, to get where I had to go, I had to take the side bike path that runs along Sierra Highway. For anyone who knows it, Sierra Highway is a 4-lane, nondivided highway that has a speed limit of 65. There are railroad tracks that run parallel to the road. The bike path is between the road and the tracks. The bike path is for both directions, north and south, and has broken lines dividing it. At each intersection, you have to get off your bike, walk over to the button to push to get the walk signal for the light, then walk across the intersection.

Ave O-8 and Sierra doesn't have a 4-way intersection, but does have a light, a crosswalk across Sierra and another crosswalk across O-8. The signs say that bicycles must use the crosswalks. Since I'm getting used to new cleats, pedals, and shoes, I didn't even bother riding into the parking lot after crossing the street, I just stopped, pulled out my walking shoes, and walked the bike the rest of the way to the meeting.

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+1

There is one marked bike lane in my area. Other than that, I ride as a legal vehicle on public roads.
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Click on the VC link in my signature.
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VC = highly debatable, politically charged, emotionally invested way of riding a bike, and discussing said riding, whilst in traffic, town, or on a country road.



To each his own!
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