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    Safety in the Garage?

    Here's the situation:

    Working on bike in 3 car garage. Propane heater going at my feet. Degreasing and relubing Chain. Cleaning bike with WD40. Hooking up a new computer. Putting new hand grips on, I start to double over from some sort of abdominal pain combined with lower back pain.

    I am wondering if it was from a combination of Propane fumes and chemicals?
    I have worked many of hours in the garage with this heater, no effects.
    Waiting for the Doc to call now. Still have lower back pain, seems like two lower muscles.

    Won't be doing that any time soon. whew!

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    As far as I know, the biggest risk form Propane, aside from fire, is carbon monoxide. I don't think that CO poisoning would cause abdominal pain. Headache and sleepiness perhaps. Don't know about WD40 fumes, but I wouldn't want to be spraying a lot of it around in an enclosed garage (fumes) with a propane heater (fire) in the area.

    Maybe some nice water based degreaser would be better.

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    Yeah, I'd get some ventilation in there pronto. You're probably breathing in vaporized WD-40, and the last time I checked a label, WD-40 isn't very good for you. If you must keep the doors shut to keep in the heat, then go to a hardware store and buy a breathing mask. Get one that covers your mouth and nose, and uses replaceable cartridges.
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    Also make sure you get the right cartridges. Getting cartridges made for one chemical or dust may not adequetly protect you from another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walkafire
    Here's the situation:

    Working on bike in 3 car garage. Propane heater going at my feet. Degreasing and relubing Chain. Cleaning bike with WD40. Hooking up a new computer. Putting new hand grips on, I start to double over from some sort of abdominal pain combined with lower back pain.
    As above, get some fresh air in there without dropping the temp significantly. I use one of those kerosene heaters in the garage quite abit while working on my car and every so often I head out and get some fresh air.

    Abdominal and lower back pain? Could be muscles, digestive, abdominal aortic aneurysm !





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    ok talked with the Doc (Finally!)

    Said my symptoms had nothing to do with Propane or the Chemicals (WD40 + Degreaser). It was probably due to a viral infection or cold. Told me to take 800 mg of ibuprofen and call if did not go away.

    At least a phone call was FREE! Funny how this all happened at once. Guess ya never know?

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    Carbon monoxide poisoning can cause muscle cramps, I read. Does your stomach pain feel more like a cramp or something else? Using a citrus degreaser from a bike shop should be healthier for you. Gotta watch those chem fumes! Never use anything with noxious fumes in a closed area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walkafire
    ok talked with the Doc (Finally!)

    Said my symptoms had nothing to do with Propane or the Chemicals (WD40 + Degreaser). It was probably due to a viral infection or cold. Told me to take 800 mg of ibuprofen and call if did not go away.

    At least a phone call was FREE! Funny how this all happened at once. Guess ya never know?
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    Propane is suppose to burn clean, so CO should not be a problem, but using up all the oxygen in a well insulated garage might be.

    Get the MSDS (material safety data sheet) for the Chemicals (WD40 + Degreaser, etc.). Available from manufacturer and several other web sites. A MSDS will tell you the hazards and precautions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB HI
    Propane is suppose to burn clean, so CO should not be a problem, but using up all the oxygen in a well insulated garage might be.
    Propane burns clean if the burner is designed to do so and is in good condition, but can produce CO. A propane space heater should be well designed, but stuff happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff-o
    ... and buy a breathing mask. Get one that covers your mouth and nose, and uses replaceable cartridges.
    A breathing mask will not help in an oxygen deficient space. With the correct filters, it will filter out vapors and/or particles but it will NOT supply oxygen to you.

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    Walkafire
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    went back to Doc. Looks like I need an Ultrasound.

    Might not have anything to do with the whole Garage thing.

    Freak act of timing if ya ask me. Oh well. I still will vent the garage better, but a 3 car garage? with a couple roof vents? who knows.

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