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    Cycle helmits should be banned

    Ok sorry just cant help my self. Get ready you Yogurt niters to be outraged.

    Cycle helmets are a waste of time!!

    Oh, that felt good. Ok so itís not quite true and ok I donít quite believe it but heck, what kind of an argument is it when you are reasonable. You would never end up with a war that way. OhÖ. hold on is that the point?

    If you think you look funky in them, wear one.
    If you are a five year old child learning to ride wear one.
    If you are mountain biking wear one.
    But if you believe that that silly piece of foam will keep you alive in a major traffic accident then you are as daft as a badger. I had a van turn in front of me last January. I thought this was a bit rude so I stuck my head through his passenger window (yes it was closed) and left a body shape dent in his door. Got scraped off the road by the lovely (they gave me gas, wow that stuff is good ) Scottish Ambulance Service and taped to a board. Some stupid nurse while putting stitches in my face had the cheek to tell me I should have been wearing a helmet. As I could smell the cigarettes on her breath I told her if she shut up abut helmets I would shut up about cigarettes. If you want to wear a helmet wear one. Some time I even do (mainly when banging my head on my desk in frustration ) but letís face it if they were any good motor bike helmet would look like cycle helmets. They are good for very slow impacts i.e. falling of you bike at 0 mph and hitting the ground. Anything that stpes people from getting on there bike is bad (boo). Cycling is a social benefit, it make me happy, it makes me healthy, I live longer, I cost less in health care (even with the odd stitch to the face). The down side is there are a few tragic accidents a year when folk are killed. Its sad. It happens. Its called life. Wearing a helmit will not ward off all the nasty things in life.

    Any suggestion that helmets should be legally sanctioned should be vigorously opposed.

    Those for the motion say I
    Those against write something stropy, go on you know you want to.

    Have a look at the link below has some stats may be of interest.

    http://www.cyclehelmets.org/index.html

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...nt/3623089.stm

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    Ummmm ... are you sure you didn't mean to post this in the Advocacy forum, not the Touring forum? That's where all the other anti-helmet posts are, I believe ... and this doesn't seem to have anything to do with touring.

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    I think he meant to post it in the "troll-forum."
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    Sounds to me that maybe you should have been wearing one when you hit that van


    ...there I go again, feeding the troll, I should know better

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    You know what? I agree! If I see anyone wearing a helmit, I will personally inform them of the harm they are doing to cycling's image! A true cyclist should be ashamed to be seen in the dangerous, hideously obsolescent helmit. The helmit is an assault on every virtue that we, as cyclists, hold dear to our hearts. Cyclists, drop your helmits! You have nothing to lose! Join the Anti-Helmit Brotherhood (sisters allowed, too, subject to board approval)!

    You know, Cyclaholic, I think you're right. Either that or there was some accident years back in which he should have been wearing that helmet. Such vitriol! I must needs purchase an umbrella.

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    Oh, you guys are no fun. Ok I'll take my rant some where else. I didnt relise there was a special place for people like me. How exciting.

    Best touring head gear for most climates is a traditional cycle cap. Great things, add a ear muff in cold weather, replace with balaclava in v. cold conditions. In really powefull sun (tropics)a straw hat works really well. Surprissingly iff you jam then on tight they stay on your head, even down hill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sula
    Oh, you guys are no fun. Ok I'll take my rant some where else. I didnt relise there was a special place for people like me. How exciting.

    Best touring head gear for most climates is a traditional cycle cap. Great things, add a ear muff in cold weather, replace with balaclava in v. cold conditions. In really powefull sun (tropics)a straw hat works really well. Surprissingly iff you jam then on tight they stay on your head, even down hill.
    Yeah there is...and it is usually under a bridge somewhere. Sorry we aren't biting...troll!!
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    Gotta love them Scots, their heads are harder than any helmet ever devised, just like mine!

    Edit - AYE Helmet laws are for busy-bodies and commies. Wear one, don't wear one, who cares, no laws required.
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    What's a "Yogurt niter?" Is it anything like a "grapefruit-nut?"
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    I love useless threads sometimes, even dumb ones like this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sula
    Some stupid nurse while putting stitches in my face had the cheek to tell me I should have been wearing a helmet. As I could smell the cigarettes on her breath I told her if she shut up abut helmets I would shut up about cigarettes.

    No you didn't.
    No one, with a lick of sense, would ever tell someone to shut up, while that person was stitching up their face!

    Ohhh wait, that's right... you don't wear a helmet!

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    Helmit... anything like a baseball mitt?

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    Aye

    I still wear a helmet when commuting and touring. But I don't think they should be required by law.

    Outlaw cell phone use while driving first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genec
    Helmit... anything like a baseball mitt?
    A baseball mitt for your head, maybe?

    Obviously those helmits don't do much. I'll stick to my fullface, tough shell BMX helmet, it beats getting my face sewn back together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2wheeledsoul
    A baseball mitt for your head, maybe?

    Obviously those helmits don't do much. I'll stick to my fullface, tough shell BMX helmet, it beats getting my face sewn back together.
    Again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikepacker67
    No you didn't.
    No one, with a lick of sense, would ever tell someone to shut up, while that person was stitching up their face!

    Ohhh wait, that's right... you don't wear a helmet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipcom
    Again?
    hmm?

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    Probably there is some merit to the info posted on the site. However even if the protection of the helmet isn't as great as some people think it has to help to some degree in some situations. In other words it can't hurt. And since wearing one has no influence on how much I ride for me at least there is no reason not to wear one.

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    The last time I smashed a car windshield with my head I was happy to be wearing a helmet.
    "Evidence, anecdote and methodology all support planning for roadway bike traffic."

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    Quote Originally Posted by geraldatwork
    Probably there is some merit to the info posted on the site. However even if the protection of the helmet isn't as great as some people think it has to help to some degree in some situations. In other words it can't hurt. And since wearing one has no influence on how much I ride for me at least there is no reason not to wear one.
    There is a flaw in your reasoning; a helmet can cause harm. There is substantial evidence that perceived safety measures can cause people to unconsciously take larger risks. This is evidenced by people that say, "I wouldn't feel safe going 35 mph down such-and-such a road if I didn't have a helmet on". Well, bicycle helmets would do nothing at all to protect a head that hit a solid object at such speeds.

    I don't bother people that wear helmets, even though I think they perpetuate the myth that cycling is a dangerous activity, thereby reducing the volume of cycling and increasing the danger for the rest of us. Therefore, I get very weary of complete strangers telling me how to conduct myself safely, when I have researched this issue and made an informed decision.

    What is it about helmet usage that makes some helmet wearers such crusaders? People don't go around telling others not to smoke, that riding motorcycles is dangerous, and that the Whopper they're eating is going to give them heart disease; why do I get constant admonitions to don a piece of Styrofoam?

    That said, it is also disheartening to have my position advocated by such an obvious troll

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    There is a theory that when you are seen wearing safety gear, such as helmet reflectives etc they will percieve you as a safer rider and therefore give you less space. If you are just wearing shorts and shirt, you look less experienced and so more likely to "do something dangerous" (I guess) and so they give you a wider berth!

    Don't ask me where I heard this, I can't remember but I think it works.


    Even though I say this, I still wear my helmet, ALWAYS. Even if it does only protect you from falling to the ground at 0mph (I just started using clipless pedals, so that is quite likely!).

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    Helmits are the devil's gloves

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    If helmets actually did something--it's the motorists that should be wearing them. Also if you really liked your family you'd do them a favor and not wear a helmet. You dont want to be living in a coma forever do you?

    Anyone saying "If I knew that a car was going to hit me, I'd opt for no helmet"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikepacker67
    No you didn't.
    No one, with a lick of sense, would ever tell someone to shut up, while that person was stitching up their face!

    Ohhh wait, that's right... you don't wear a helmet!


    And he probably has a nice large scar. Too bad the nurse didn' use smaller stitches (gee, I wonder why)

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    I know this thread's a troll, but some of us obviously haven't had enough bike crashes yet.
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