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View Poll Results: What was the reason of your crash? (multiple choices are possible)
Crossing wet rails. 6 12.00%
Hitting a pothole or a stone. 6 12.00%
Wheel stuck in a slot. 5 10.00%
Slippery surface due to ice or snow. 9 18.00%
Slippery surface due to water, oil spills, etc. 8 16.00%
Caught off guard on a trail. 9 18.00%
Hit by a car from behind. 3 6.00%
Frontal or sideways collision with a car. 10 20.00%
No safety lights on bike during darkness. 1 2.00%
Other 20 40.00%
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Old 11-03-02, 02:43 PM   #1
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Enough statistics. What was the reason of Your real crash?

Why did you fall down? What could you do differently?

What were your actions after the crash? Could you be prepared better? If yes, how then?
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Old 11-03-02, 04:22 PM   #2
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A number of other cyclists going down in front of me while riding in group.
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Old 11-03-02, 04:29 PM   #3
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Went down because I didn't see two strategically placed dimples in the pavement, the handlebars shimmied out of my hands and I went down at 37kph, luckily I had just went through a yellow light and there were no cars on the otherwise busy street.
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Old 11-03-02, 06:06 PM   #4
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My worst crash was caused by a pedestrian. Pedestrians entering the roadway without looking because they don't hear an engine coming are a constant hazard to urban cyclists, because they're totally unpredictable. (I expect that most hearing-impaired pedestrians actually do look both ways, and thus are less of a threat.)

My worst near-misses were caused by wrong-way cyclists. One coming around a blind corner; the other coming at me on a fast 4-lane highway with no shoulder.

I fear pedestrians and ignorant cyclists much more than I fear motor vehicles.

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Old 11-03-02, 06:09 PM   #5
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A slippery surface brought me down a couple years ago.

I almost a hit an oppossum a few times, but in each case neither of us ended up on the ground.
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Old 11-03-02, 06:44 PM   #6
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Well, you covered my three crashes.

1. Ice patch on road. broken right collarbone. I should have slowed down when going over the bridge.

2. Wheel caught in sewer grate. broken left collarbone. 2 cracked ribs. I looked back because a car was passing me on the right side illegally from a "right turn only" lane.

3. Lady making left turn in front of me. broken wheel and fork. I flipped over the hood, landed on my feet and messenger bag. no injuries. No way around it. It was either hit her, hit a curb, or go into oncoming traffic.

BTW, my helmets helped and did it's job on all instances. Thank you Giro, Bell, and whatever company made my first no-name helmet.


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Old 11-03-02, 09:06 PM   #7
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Having had six crashes since July 2001, my only question is "which crash?"
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Old 11-03-02, 11:22 PM   #8
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Having had six crashes since July 2001, my only question is "which crash?"
This is the multiple choices poll. You can enter all six in one fell swoop.

The idea was to see if those official statistics correlate with the real raw data, posted by cyclists themselves.

I could not include pedestrians into the poll due to the limit of 10 options.
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Old 11-04-02, 05:14 AM   #9
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Lessons learned...

1.) Be more careful when zipping passed stationary cars (expect that they will let cars pass)

2.) Don't attempt to give way to buses, take the full lane as needed

3.) Get some more insurance to avoid having it take over 6 months to have the insurance pay off on the claim

4.) Consider pressing charges against the driver (see #3 above) in order to expediate recovery of funds.

5.) Groan and moan. Otherwise, the doctors will simply pass things off as a silly sporting accident

6.) Call the police.

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Old 11-04-02, 06:38 AM   #10
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I'm proud to say I've crashed as a result of each of the items on the list with the exception of the headlight one and the slot thing. I'm still working on those two. I'm certain you'll hear about it when I score those two points. The point for other came from doing down stairs.

Oh crap, I read the "Hit by a car from behind" point wrong. I actually hit a car in the behind. Do I still get a point for that? It was moving.
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The most recent was sideways collision with car, so I voted for that one, that was about 3 weeks ago at a busy intersection. Result, broken bone in my hand and some contusions, especially where I landed on my back. Bike's okay, broke a cleat in my right shoe! Rear wheel wobbles but can be trued.

About a month before that, I slid on some old rail tracks, apparently they had dirt on them that I didn't see and DOH! Nothing major there but boy was I sore. I am really careful around rails, sewer grates and I plan to avoid that intersection until they put in a real stoplight.
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All except for the collisions with a car.
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I have fallen three time in the last 8 years. First time I was hit by a car that was speeding and ran a stop sign. Oh yes, I saw it coming, but I was like a deer in the headlights. Kick stand (yes, it was a huffy) was jambed into my calf (nice scar) and I sprained my wrist really bad (swelled up the size of a softball).

The second time was about 5 months ago on my commute to the office. I was doing a track stand at a signal hoping it would turn green. I had to inch forward to keep my balance in my front wheel went into a little puddle (that had mud in it). The front wheel slid out from under me and my bike went down. I got my foot out and there was no damage to anything (except my ego).

The last was two months ago when a mother of a 16 year old was driving her daughter to HS. They were at a signal and traffic was backed up a bit and the mother decided to make a quick right turn. I put on the brakes and turned to avoid the car, but did not. I plowed my left-side of my handle bars into the rear door. Doing this I could hear the daughter yell at the mother to stop. I went down and my wrist was sore, but that was all the damage to me. Now there car had around $800 worth of damage. I insisting on calling the police, but they convinced me otherwise. I was late to work anyways, I ended up with a good excuse

No more accidents for 2 years now.
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(Sorry, it won't let me vote)

1) Pedestrian aggression. A ped deliberately knocked me off my bike in a suprise attack. I landed first on my face, then I landed in the hospital.

2) Wet RR tracks.

3) ?

As a pedestrian, I almost got hit by a car who did not bother to look for me IN THE CROSSWALK. I'd like to have a penny for each time this has happened to me.
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Does 'own dumbness' count as 'other'?
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My wildest crash was due to not being used to V brakes, Used to Disc Brakes, endoed through split wood fence.
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My biggest one, a lady blew (didn't even slow down) a 4 way stop and clipped my back wheel. I had a concussion and abrasions, but no broken bones or knocked out teeth. I wasn't wearing a helmet. I wear one now.

Other than that, just your typical mountain bike wrecks. Oh, and the time I was really drunk and went over the handlebars because when I decided to turn my head to see if any cars were coming, the handlebars turned with.
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I can't believe how many drivers don't even look at stopsigns or even check to see if anyone is crossing the street. Recently, I was at a crosswalk (as a pedestrian) and this woman stopped but I wasn't able to cross because she just rolled right through it. SHe looked to see if any cars were coming ( it was a three way intersection) but didn't bother to look to see if any pedestrians were trying to cross. As she turned, I noticed her window was open and I yelled, "did you even LOOK at the stopsign before you went through it ,you idiot?" I see people do that all the time- they don't even LOOK! NO wonder people get hit by cars!
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Riding home from work I spot this cute...no drop dead goddes riding along the road. As I passed her I saw hello, we make with the chit chat for a bit as we ride along. I had places to be so I said good-bye and ride off. That's when it happened. Caught the edge of the road.... Went down hard.

Well at least I got her number!
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Riding home from work I spot this cute...no drop dead goddes riding along the road. As I passed her I saw hello, we make with the chit chat for a bit as we ride along. I had places to be so I said good-bye and ride off. That's when it happened. Caught the edge of the road.... Went down hard.

Well at least I got her number!
Now why didn't that happen on any of my crashes.

Actually, six since July 2001 - there's only been one constant during that time, and since I've blamed it for everything else - it's all the fault of the drought.
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Old 11-05-02, 09:40 PM   #21
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Letting my "ego" out think my brain on a technical section of trail. Sorta like MeHT's own dumbness theory, I too checked other. I am far more destructive to myself, than my environment could ever be.
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...this cute...no drop dead goddes riding along the road. As I passed her I saw hello, we make with the chit chat for a bit as we ride along. ...
Yep, cycling is a good place to meet people, though some goddesses can be very distracting. I think I understand what you mean.

Seriously, I never leave my home anymore without a small but impressive medical kit.

The worst problem with a crash was when my son hurt his knee insignificantly, but our hydrogen peroxide bottle turned out to be dry inside when we opened it.

So the wound got infected later and we had to visit hospital for the antibiotic treatment.
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Here are my major, memorable spills, crashes and injuries:

--Grade school in Salem, Oregon, ~1952: in my front yard, I tripped over a bicycle and fell on its fender, cutting my hand. The bike was laying on the ground at the time. Eight stitches were needed to close it, and I broke it open once more for more stitches.

--Grade school in Salem, Oregon, ~1954: biking home for lunch from school, got into gravel, slid out and crashed to the pavement. 'Scraped up the side of my face, and got my first of my migrain headaches (no helmet--many, many years ago).

--College at Oregon State University, Corvallis, Oregon, ~1966: I was trying to go fast down a slight slope on a road with a school bus behind me. I tried to get out of its way (there were no bike lanes, or even road sides on this road). I decided to get out of its way by taking a driveway to a sidewalk. Unfortunately, I was going too fast to turn hard enough to get up to the sidewalk, so I decided to cut diagonally across it. But I still could not make it to the sidewalk, and had to settly for cutting across a small gravel section onto the sidewalk. This was a problem though, as this "gravel" was actually fist-sized rocks. And the sidewalk was not at ground level; it was elevated about 4 inches above the ground level. I ended skidding against the sidewalk's edge, doing two and a half rolls and finding myself upside down in a small bush. My injuries--skinned areas (top of foot--only had thongs on, knee, shoulder, arm). I had no helmet, and was wearing cutoffs at the time.

--Roseburg, Oregon, ~1989: riding home from work, passed over a freeway overpass, and the road curved to the right. Along with the curve, the road was tilted for cars to have a better time at speed. I tried to turn left, up the road, and found that the bicycle had no traction. In the middle of the turn, the bicycle came literally out from under me, and I fell hard on my left side. Because I did not take my hands off the bike's handlebars (drops, and I was on the top), I took the fall on my left side, probably cracking or breaking a rib. No other injuries. I was wearing a helmet, but my head did not touch ground.

--Portland, Oregon ~1993: I was at a conference, and decided to bicycle to the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry from my motel. I had brought my bicycle, and was bicycling after dark on a wet evening, but with lights. A car passed me, then turned in front of me. I was almost able to stop, but not quite and he clipped my front wheel. I went down, suffered a small abrasion on my leg, and no bicycle damage. I had a helmet, but my head never touched ground. The driver miscalculated my speed in the dark. But he had seen me.

--Roseburg, Oregon ~1995: riding for exercise, early in the morning, I went into a park. Because of lighting and sprinklers, I did not see a curb in a parking lot, hit it directly, and flew off the bike over the handlebars. I was going ~15 mph at the time. Bent the wheel badly, and bent the front fork. Wore a helmet, but suffered only road rash; head did not touch the ground.

--Beaverton, Oregon, 2000: Bicycling to work, on a four-lane road with good bicycle lanes, I began a long descent down a major hill (Murray Hill), and was just congratulating myself on going through the green light at the hills bottom. I didn't have to brake and stop, and looked down to see how fast I was actually going. The odometer read over 20 mph. I looked up, and all I saw was the side of a massive, red SUV two feet in front of my wheel. I was in the hooks, pushed the bike's front wheel into the car's side as I dismounted to the right, kicked away from the rear wheel as it went by, and slid down the highway behind the SUV. 'Suffered lots of road rash, a huge bruise on the underside of my thigh (where the bike's top tub hit my thigh when I dismounted). Bicycle fork bent, both wheel rims destroyed; insurance paid for repairs, but it took me several months to get back to cycling. I was wearing a helmet, but it never hit the ground.

--Beaverton, Oregon, May 2002: Bicycling home from work, along a major four-lane street with many entrances to it from parking lots. One minute I was signaling to go out of the turn lane, and the next minute I knew, I woke up an hour later in the hospital. Various reports of my either loosing control or swerving to miss a car. I will have a more complete analysis on a separate thread of this crash. I was wearing a helmet; helmet is now in many pieces and the trauma doc said if I had been unlucky that day, and had not worn a helmet, I would have lived. The helmet saved my life! Result, 24 hours in the hospital under observation, dizziness for two days, easing after a week. Lots of road rash (knee, thigh, arm, shoulder, face) and a cut on the top of my head requiring three staples. The bicycle was virtually undamaged other than scraped handlebar tape.

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Old 11-10-02, 10:21 AM   #24
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All of my crashes since my rebirth as a cyclist (1999, long story) have been in the other catagory.

Suprised by a large dog, hit the curb, and went down rolling. Managed to shatter my helmet, which made a beliver out of me. At that time, I was wearing a helmet as a concession to my bride.

Ran over a small (15 - 20 lb) dog, flipped over the bars and cracked my collar bone.

Most recently, broke the bar binder bolt in my stem when sprinting out in front of traffic. Suddenly found myself holding bars that were no longer attached to the bike. Most interesting situation, but came out with only minor road rash.

Reading through this thread, one thing jumps out at me. Learn how to fall. As a child my mother force me to go to tumbling and gymnastics classes. I hated them, but I learned how to fall, to tuck and roll at an early age. Take judo or karate classes, or learn how yourself. Find some nice, thick grass or wait for heavy snow, and work on it. Used to race crits and fall a lot. Never broke a wrist or arm, and never broke my collarbone until last year (well, just cracke it, not a clean break).
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i voted "other", b/c a blow-out wasnt listed.

but i did take a minor spill when my rear tire blew out.=P

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