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Old 02-03-06, 06:32 AM   #1
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What About A Full Face Helmet For The Road?

Is there a full face off-road helmet light enough for road riding? A cyclist was severely injured here recently. He was hit from behind, and landed on his face, doing much damage to his teeth, nose, etc. If he had had a full face helmet, he might have gotten off alot better.
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Old 02-03-06, 07:30 AM   #2
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I'm still waiting for my bicycle body suit.
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Old 02-03-06, 08:07 AM   #3
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I run a Pryme AL fullface. Laminated fiberglass, plenty O' venting and a good face covering. Designed for BMX racing, it comes in at 970 grams. The feeling of safety I get from this is awesome. It kinda spooks drivers a bit as well.
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Old 02-03-06, 08:22 AM   #4
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Is there a full face off-road helmet light enough for road riding? A cyclist was severely injured here recently. He was hit from behind, and landed on his face, doing much damage to his teeth, nose, etc. If he had had a full face helmet, he might have gotten off alot better.

???

Sounds like the problem was not the helmet, but the fact that he was hit from behind!

If he hadn't been riding his bike he'd gotten off alot better.
Or if he'd been in a car.


Throwing hardware at the problem only helps to a certain point. Bicyclists will bloat up like big big "safe" cars and SUV's. We'll have airbags before long.


To each his own. Good luck in your search.
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Old 02-03-06, 08:49 AM   #5
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Heres a MET on eBay

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Old 02-03-06, 09:10 AM   #6
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Is there a full face off-road helmet light enough for road riding? A cyclist was severely injured here recently. He was hit from behind, and landed on his face, doing much damage to his teeth, nose, etc. If he had had a full face helmet, he might have gotten off alot better.
Safety first, eh? To keep from hitting the ground bicycling safety paranoids needs more proven safety equipment.Training wheels or full steel cage protection around the head and body, or both, that's the ticket. See below:

Seriously, Facial injuries are certainly nothing to laugh about but it seems like the victim of a car collision from the rear could have suffered, and normally would, a lot worse, helmet or no helmet.
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Old 02-03-06, 09:18 AM   #7
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On a much less serious note....I face-planted in December commuting on an icy day with tricky weather. 11 stitches, an ambulance ride, and a trip to the ER later (not in that order, of course), my wife's thinking about getting me a full-face helmet.

I'll be sure NOT to show her that BMX helmet. She'd run right out and get me one.
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Old 02-03-06, 09:21 AM   #8
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lol....full face protection in case I kiss the car, or the tree.
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Old 02-03-06, 09:24 AM   #9
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lol....full face protection in case I kiss the car, or the tree.
Perhaps you should slow down and look where you are cycling. That seems to keep me from cycling into objects in plain sight.
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Old 02-03-06, 09:31 AM   #10
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Well as for kissing the car still hasn't happened yet thank goodness, I'm not about to slow down though. And sometimes things do get a little out of hand on the trail, I like to push my abilities, it's how I get better and faster.
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Old 02-03-06, 09:41 AM   #11
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On the trails and downhilling, a full-face would make me feel more secure. On the streets with the way traffic in N.A. treats cyclists, I think a helmet is enough. What happened to the cyclist that got rear-ended was unfortunate, but also rare. The same rare accidents happen to pedestrians walking down sidewalks too and no ones saying peds should be wearing safety devices.
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Old 02-03-06, 09:43 AM   #12
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I don't know I've seen a few peds that could use one of those blow up sumo outfits. lol
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Old 02-03-06, 09:48 AM   #13
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Well as for kissing the car still hasn't happened yet thank goodness, I'm not about to slow down though. And sometimes things do get a little out of hand on the trail, I like to push my abilities, it's how I get better and faster.
Sounds like you might need as much safety equipment as you can if you take that attitude to the street. Hopefully you will grow up before you find out how ineffective that equipment is in a collision with an automobile.
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Dude I'm retired messenger, and have been playin in traffic for over twenty years.... thanks for your concern but I'll be fine.

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Just don't try to follow theres barely room for one, let alone two. I don't recommend my style of riding for the casual rider or the faint of heart. I'm very experienced and well versed at what I do.
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I see some people wearing full face helmets and riding downhill mountain bikes out on the streets. Maybe that's the only gear they have. If you want a full face helmet for city riding, it's a free country. Do as you like. It's your choice and anybody who feels they have to tell you it's a stupid choice, well, you don't have to listen.
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Dude I'm retired messenger, and have been playin in traffic for over twenty years.... thanks for your concern but I'll be fine.

***legal disclaimer****
Just don't try to follow theres barely room for one, let alone two. I don't recommend my style of riding for the casual rider or the faint of heart. I'm very experienced and well versed at what I do.
Hopefully you will grow up before you can't.
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Everyone has one......
Keeps me young....remember that?
We all have differing views on life and what makes it rewarding and fulfilling.
I respect your choices, I may not undstand them but I do respect them.

Should I get rid of my skateboards and skis and snowboards too in case I get hurt? Doesn't sound like livin then.
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Should I get rid of my skateboards and skis and snowboards too in case I get hurt?
Yes, if you "play in traffic" with them and then boast about it.
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Should I get rid of my skateboards and skis and snowboards too in case I get hurt?
Just lose the snowboard, and buy more skis.
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planker..... I may give it all up for some extreme quilting though...lol

You get snow this year? Not that matters but in playing in traffic, it's that I travel as fast or faster than the automotive river. Yes wizzing past the sea of cars is fun.
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I've mentioned before that I use a full-face (same as jammers) for general riding in the winter. It's pretty comfortable, keeps my face warm, and offers a bit more protection in the event of a crash.

I don't think anyone suggested a heavier helmet is a substitute for not running into things.
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Old 02-03-06, 11:34 AM   #22
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A cyclist was severely injured here recently. ... landed on his face, doing much damage to his teeth, nose, etc.
When I crashed my motorcycle, I went face-first into the ground. I was wearing a full-face helmet and landed right on my face/chin. No injuries. My helmet was all scratched up, but my manly good looks were unscathed.
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I run a Pryme AL fullface. ...


I gotta get this......
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I don't think anyone suggested a heavier helmet is a substitute for not running into things.
+1,

It's good to know that there are options for folks that would like a little extra protection.

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When I crashed my motorcycle, I went face-first into the ground. I was wearing a full-face helmet and landed right on my face/chin. No injuries. My helmet was all scratched up, but my manly good looks were unscathed.
Agree. I fell off (motorcycle) at about 5-10 mph. I was wearing a full face helmet, which got pretty well gouged and the face shield was so scratched it was unusable. I was stupidly wearing short sleaves and had road rash from my pinkie to above the elbow. If I hadn't had the full face, I'd look like quasimodo now.

I would definitely wear a full face bicycle helmet, if there were such a thing, but the motocross helmets seem too heavy/bulky for bicycling.
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