SUV Maniac Runs Down 14 People
08-29-06, 07:30 PM
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SUV Maniac Runs Down 14 People
SAN FRANCISCO -- As many as 14 people were injured this afternoon by a motorist who drove around San Francisco running them down before he was arrested, authorities said.
Seven of those injured were in critical condition, police and firefighters said.
Authorities have identified the man who was arrested as Omeed Aziz Popal, who has addresses in Ceres (Stanislaus County) and Fremont.
Authorities said they believe Popal was the same driver who ran over and killed a 55-year-old man walking in a bicycle lane in Fremont, at Fremont Boulevard near Ferry Lane, just after noon. That crash scene is just blocks from Popal's Fremont address, where he had most recently been living.
Popal was arrested at a Walgreens at Spruce and California streets.
In San Francisco, the attacks began around 1 p.m., but it was unclear in what order:
• Two people, one of them a child, were critically injured around by a sport-utility vehicle on the 3500 block of California Street in Laurel Heights.
• Three people were hit at California and Fillmore streets. Witnesses said they included a man with a broken hip and a woman with a gashed head.
• Two people were seriously hurt at Bush and Pierce streets and one person was seriously injured at Bush and Buchanan streets, police said. One person suffered minor injuries in an incident at 1850 Fillmore Street.
• Two other people suffered minor injuries when they were hit at Pine and Divisadero streets, and another two were hit and suffered minor injuries at Divisadero and Bush Street.
"It was like 'Death Race 2000,' " firefighter Danny Bright said at California and Fillmore streets, as an ambulance stood nearby. "Guys were walking down the sidewalk and the guy just came up and ran them over. The guy went crazy.''
Fire Lt. Mindy Talmadge said Mayor Gavin Newsom had been notified and was coordinating the response with the command post at Spruce and California streets.
This afternoon, Newsom left City Hall saying he was en route to a hospital -- presumably San Francisco General, where seven people had been admitted.
"Eleven people were hurt in the field, and police are still finding others," said Lann Wilder, a spokeswoman for San Francisco General Hospital. Seven people ages 18-84 were being treated at San Francisco General, she said.
Wilder did not comment on the patients' conditions, but said she would provide further details later this afternoon.
Three people were taken to St. Francis Hospital, one to Kaiser and two others California Pacific Medical Center, Wilder said.
One victim, Pedro Aglugov, 70, was sitting at a table at a sidewalk cafe at California and Fillmore with his head bandaged with gauze, holding an ice pack to one elbow.
"He was going real fast," Aglugov said of the driver. "I was lucky I wasn't hurt more.''
Eliseo Billones Jr., 24, a canvasser for Greenpeace, was standing on the corner when Aglugov was hit.
"He was going berserk," Billones said of the driver. "It was a red light and he just ran the red light. I saw him (Aglugov) hit the corner of the bumper and tumble.''
Barclay Lynn, 39, of San Francisco, said she and a friend were driving east on Bush when they saw a black SUV driving away and saw a motorcyclist who had been hit.
"The motorcyclist stood in the intersection trying to signal the driver to stop,'' Lynn said. The SUV then "went speeding in reverse on Bush heading west, weaving in and out of traffic. The whole right side of his SUV was smashed in.''
At Frankie's Bohemian Cafe at Divisadero and Pine, a man named William, who asked that his last name not be used, said he was walking south on Divisadero when "we heard the thump, turned around, saw bodies flying.''
He described the vehicle as a black Honda Pilot SUV that looked new and had a windshield that was shattered on the right side.
The driver went down Pine and Bush, "stood on the gas,'' then a couple of minutes later "came flying up through the bus lane'' headed north on Divisadero.
Another man at the cafe, Max Bran, said, "We thought he was going to stop and give up, but instead he just stepped on the gas. It didn't matter, regardless of the lights.''
He saw a woman knocked down. "She was just crossing the street, just crossing the street," he said. "In fact, I had just crossed the street.''
The two men said someone who had been at the cafe earlier picked up a license plate from the SUV.
Authorities believe the same suspect struck and killed a pedestrian in Fremont earlier today.
That victim was walking north on Fremont Boulevard in the bicycle lane when he was struck from behind and knocked several feet into a field, Fremont Officer Alan Zambonin said.
He was pronounced dead at the scene. The black SUV, a Honda described as a Pilot or a CRV, made no attempt to stop or help the victim, police said.
The vehicle had right front end damage and a shattered windshield.
Zambonin said one witness saw the collision from about 1,000 feet away, then stopped to try to help the man, who was already dead.
Zambonin estimated the SUV was going as fast as 50 mph and sped away with a blown out windshield.
"It's a good possibility (the incidents) are all connected,'' Zambonin said.
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Seven of those injured were in critical condition, police and firefighters said.
Authorities have identified the man who was arrested as Omeed Aziz Popal, who has addresses in Ceres (Stanislaus County) and Fremont.
Authorities said they believe Popal was the same driver who ran over and killed a 55-year-old man walking in a bicycle lane in Fremont, at Fremont Boulevard near Ferry Lane, just after noon. That crash scene is just blocks from Popal's Fremont address, where he had most recently been living.
Popal was arrested at a Walgreens at Spruce and California streets.
In San Francisco, the attacks began around 1 p.m., but it was unclear in what order:
• Two people, one of them a child, were critically injured around by a sport-utility vehicle on the 3500 block of California Street in Laurel Heights.
• Three people were hit at California and Fillmore streets. Witnesses said they included a man with a broken hip and a woman with a gashed head.
• Two people were seriously hurt at Bush and Pierce streets and one person was seriously injured at Bush and Buchanan streets, police said. One person suffered minor injuries in an incident at 1850 Fillmore Street.
• Two other people suffered minor injuries when they were hit at Pine and Divisadero streets, and another two were hit and suffered minor injuries at Divisadero and Bush Street.
"It was like 'Death Race 2000,' " firefighter Danny Bright said at California and Fillmore streets, as an ambulance stood nearby. "Guys were walking down the sidewalk and the guy just came up and ran them over. The guy went crazy.''
Fire Lt. Mindy Talmadge said Mayor Gavin Newsom had been notified and was coordinating the response with the command post at Spruce and California streets.
This afternoon, Newsom left City Hall saying he was en route to a hospital -- presumably San Francisco General, where seven people had been admitted.
"Eleven people were hurt in the field, and police are still finding others," said Lann Wilder, a spokeswoman for San Francisco General Hospital. Seven people ages 18-84 were being treated at San Francisco General, she said.
Wilder did not comment on the patients' conditions, but said she would provide further details later this afternoon.
Three people were taken to St. Francis Hospital, one to Kaiser and two others California Pacific Medical Center, Wilder said.
One victim, Pedro Aglugov, 70, was sitting at a table at a sidewalk cafe at California and Fillmore with his head bandaged with gauze, holding an ice pack to one elbow.
"He was going real fast," Aglugov said of the driver. "I was lucky I wasn't hurt more.''
Eliseo Billones Jr., 24, a canvasser for Greenpeace, was standing on the corner when Aglugov was hit.
"He was going berserk," Billones said of the driver. "It was a red light and he just ran the red light. I saw him (Aglugov) hit the corner of the bumper and tumble.''
Barclay Lynn, 39, of San Francisco, said she and a friend were driving east on Bush when they saw a black SUV driving away and saw a motorcyclist who had been hit.
"The motorcyclist stood in the intersection trying to signal the driver to stop,'' Lynn said. The SUV then "went speeding in reverse on Bush heading west, weaving in and out of traffic. The whole right side of his SUV was smashed in.''
At Frankie's Bohemian Cafe at Divisadero and Pine, a man named William, who asked that his last name not be used, said he was walking south on Divisadero when "we heard the thump, turned around, saw bodies flying.''
He described the vehicle as a black Honda Pilot SUV that looked new and had a windshield that was shattered on the right side.
The driver went down Pine and Bush, "stood on the gas,'' then a couple of minutes later "came flying up through the bus lane'' headed north on Divisadero.
Another man at the cafe, Max Bran, said, "We thought he was going to stop and give up, but instead he just stepped on the gas. It didn't matter, regardless of the lights.''
He saw a woman knocked down. "She was just crossing the street, just crossing the street," he said. "In fact, I had just crossed the street.''
The two men said someone who had been at the cafe earlier picked up a license plate from the SUV.
Authorities believe the same suspect struck and killed a pedestrian in Fremont earlier today.
That victim was walking north on Fremont Boulevard in the bicycle lane when he was struck from behind and knocked several feet into a field, Fremont Officer Alan Zambonin said.
He was pronounced dead at the scene. The black SUV, a Honda described as a Pilot or a CRV, made no attempt to stop or help the victim, police said.
The vehicle had right front end damage and a shattered windshield.
Zambonin said one witness saw the collision from about 1,000 feet away, then stopped to try to help the man, who was already dead.
Zambonin estimated the SUV was going as fast as 50 mph and sped away with a blown out windshield.
"It's a good possibility (the incidents) are all connected,'' Zambonin said.
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This is just so disgusting... I mean it is one thing to be doing this on a video game, but in real life? That is really sick... I just can't understand what was wrong with the guy who assulted these people!
The question is, however, what would YOU do as a cyclist if this guy was coming at you?
Any senario, as long as it is in an urban environment and the guy is plowing at you.
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The question is, however, what would YOU do as a cyclist if this guy was coming at you?
Any senario, as long as it is in an urban environment and the guy is plowing at you.
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I really don't know what I would do... I mean on a bike it isn't like you could jump off or anything. I've always envisioned myself jumping onto the hood of a car and bracing my upper body for impact in the event of a collision when I am walking. On a bike... I don't know...
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Originally Posted by redden
pull out the 44 and aim steady?
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Okay, this is the type of extremely rare case where vehicular cycling is not going to help.
However, since he was running down pedestrians, vehicular cycling probably wouldn't make you any worse off.
Like the possibility that a sniper might shoot me at random, or a terrorist might blow up a plane that I'm on, or a 10 lbs meteor will fall on my head, I prefer to assume that highly unlikely events like these, including a homocidal maniac running me down intentionally, will not happen to me, and I live accordingly. The alternative to making that assumption is not living.
However, since he was running down pedestrians, vehicular cycling probably wouldn't make you any worse off.
Like the possibility that a sniper might shoot me at random, or a terrorist might blow up a plane that I'm on, or a 10 lbs meteor will fall on my head, I prefer to assume that highly unlikely events like these, including a homocidal maniac running me down intentionally, will not happen to me, and I live accordingly. The alternative to making that assumption is not living.
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The radio was reporting 16 people. Too bad they didn't catch this nut before he ran up his string of victims. His first victim was less than three miles from here. I'm wondering if they will be able to get him for first instead of second degree murder. Heaven help us if he only gets vehicular manslaughter.
What could we do on a bike to avoid this? The guy was driving onto sidewalks to hit people !!!
What could we do on a bike to avoid this? The guy was driving onto sidewalks to hit people !!!
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Originally Posted by Helmet Head
Like the possibility that a sniper might shoot me at random, or a terrorist might blow up a plane that I'm on, or a 10 lbs meteor will fall on my head, I prefer to assume that highly unlikely events like these, including a homocidal maniac running me down intentionally, will not happen to me, and I live accordingly. The alternative to making that assumption is not living.
Won't do squat for me if a meteor strikes...
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Originally Posted by Dchiefransom
What could we do on a bike to avoid this? The guy was driving onto sidewalks to hit people !!!
08-29-06, 11:54 PM
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Blue, I doubt you live your life assuming these extremely unlikely but deadly events *could* happen to you, because it would be debilitating to do so, and could lead to anxiety disorders like Agoraphobia.
Knowing that they could happen, and living your life assuming that they could, are two different things.
In other words, let's say you do assume they *could* happen, and you live your life accordingly. How do you live your life differently from how you would live it if you assumed they will not happen?
To clarify, by assuming these things won't happen to you, I'm not talking about ignoring evidence that the highly likely is about to happen... for example, I'm not talking about ignoring the suspicious looking plane passenger sitting next to you who appears to be assembling a bomb. I'm talking about whether you make any changes/adjustments in your life because you know these things *could* happen to you, absent any evidence that they actually will.
Knowing that they could happen, and living your life assuming that they could, are two different things.
In other words, let's say you do assume they *could* happen, and you live your life accordingly. How do you live your life differently from how you would live it if you assumed they will not happen?
To clarify, by assuming these things won't happen to you, I'm not talking about ignoring evidence that the highly likely is about to happen... for example, I'm not talking about ignoring the suspicious looking plane passenger sitting next to you who appears to be assembling a bomb. I'm talking about whether you make any changes/adjustments in your life because you know these things *could* happen to you, absent any evidence that they actually will.
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Originally Posted by Blue Order
Ride in the bike lane-- that place where cyclists are invisible to motorists.
Brilliant! You're catching on!
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Originally Posted by Helmet Head
Blue, I doubt you live your life assuming these extremely unlikely but deadly events *could* happen to you, because it would be debilitating to do so, and could lead to anxiety disorders like Agoraphobia.
Knowing that they could happen, and living your life assuming that they could, are two different things.
In other words, let's say you do assume they *could* happen, and you live your life accordingly. How do you live your life differently from how you would live it if you assumed they will not happen?
To clarify, by assuming these things won't happen to you, I'm not talking about ignoring evidence that the highly likely is about to happen... for example, I'm not talking about ignoring the suspicious looking plane passenger sitting next to you who appears to be assembling a bomb. I'm talking about whether you make any changes/adjustments in your life because you know these things *could* happen to you, absent any evidence that they actually will.
Knowing that they could happen, and living your life assuming that they could, are two different things.
In other words, let's say you do assume they *could* happen, and you live your life accordingly. How do you live your life differently from how you would live it if you assumed they will not happen?
To clarify, by assuming these things won't happen to you, I'm not talking about ignoring evidence that the highly likely is about to happen... for example, I'm not talking about ignoring the suspicious looking plane passenger sitting next to you who appears to be assembling a bomb. I'm talking about whether you make any changes/adjustments in your life because you know these things *could* happen to you, absent any evidence that they actually will.
That sort of thing. It's not debilitating, and I don't dwell on it. I just make a quick assessment of the situation and then go about my business. That doesn't mean that I think about a terrorist attack when I'm ordering pizza, but I do think about it when I'm getting on a plane. On the other hand, when I'm at a cafe that has no barrier between a table and auto traffic headed straight for that table, I choose another table. When I sit down somewhere, I have my back to a wall, so I can be aware of who's around me. When I've assessed a situation, I don't have to spend any more time thinking about it, and I don't have to get caught unawares, either.
It's the same kind of situational awareness we presumably practice when we ride: If I'm in the door zone, I'd better be aware of the cars ahead of me. Better yet, I'd better not ride in the door zone. When I cross an intersection, I should be aware of other traffic. I shouldn't assume, whether I'm riding or driving, that a car won't run the red light as I'm crossing through. When I'm in a crosswalk, I pay attention to whether there are any cars approaching, and how far it is to the curb; I don't assume that my right of way protects me.
It's just situational awareness, and I practice it regularly. It's how I saw that would-be mugger trying to sneak up on me that time, and it's why he didn't succeed.
Still does jack for me if a meteor strikes...
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Originally Posted by Blue Order
Still does jack for me if a meteor strikes...
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Originally Posted by Helmet Head
Well, ultimately, that's my point. You could build a bunker 100 feet underground and never leave it, but you don't, because, effectively, you live your life assuming you will not be hit by a meteor.
I think it's safe to say that while there's certainly a possibility that I could be sturck by a meteor, the likelihood is so remote, and nothing could possibly be done to prevent a strike anyway (short of building that bunker), that there's little point in thinking about it.
On the other hand, I do consider more likely scenarios against which I can take some precautions.
Being run down by a maniac while traversing the sidewalk is unlikely, but it has happened more than once. That's where situational awraeness comes in. I try to be aware of my surroundings; I try to be aware of escape routes; I don't distract myself from an awareness of my surroundings with an iPod plugged into my ear; I assess my surroundings, and I try to maintain some awareness of them, and I go about my business. Maybe some maniac out there will catch me unawares anyway, but while I may assume that it won't happen, I don't assume that it can't happen, even though I don't lose any sleep over it.
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An Afghan terrorist using a car in lieu of a plane?
https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...30/FREMONT.TMP
https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...30/FREMONT.TMP
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Originally Posted by OH306
An Afghan terrorist using a car in lieu of a plane?
https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...30/FREMONT.TMP
https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...30/FREMONT.TMP
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Originally Posted by OH306
An Afghan terrorist using a car in lieu of a plane?
https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...30/FREMONT.TMP
https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...30/FREMONT.TMP
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I might have freaked if my parents had picked the woman who would be my wife. Who knows I might have road my bike into a petting zoo and run over several helpless bunnies, chickens and who knows what else.
This person was mentally ill. He is lucky no one, "took him down".
https://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/30/suv....ap/index.html
20 minutes of hit-run hell; driver thought devil 'was coming'
SAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- The driver in a hit-and-run rampage that killed one man and injured more than a dozen people was mentally unstable and feeling stress from a recent arranged marriage, according to relatives.
This person was mentally ill. He is lucky no one, "took him down".
https://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/30/suv....ap/index.html
20 minutes of hit-run hell; driver thought devil 'was coming'
SAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- The driver in a hit-and-run rampage that killed one man and injured more than a dozen people was mentally unstable and feeling stress from a recent arranged marriage, according to relatives.
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If that man was mentally ill or unstable it is possible he was hoping for death by police when he went on his rampage. There is little any of us can do in a situation such as this.
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Originally Posted by sbhikes
If that man was mentally ill or unstable it is possible he was hoping for death by police when he went on his rampage. There is little any of us can do in a situation such as this.
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Originally Posted by Blue Order
Ride in the bike lane-- that place where cyclists are invisible to motorists.
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I was relieved to see that the district attorney is planning to file murder charges. However, some public defender will argue that Mr. Popal is the real victim and deserves to be released tomorrow morning, with a brand-new replacement SUV. The pedestrians caused the problem by being in the wrong place at the wrong time -- they should have known better.
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Originally Posted by kill.cactus
The question is, however, what would YOU do as a cyclist if this guy was coming at you?
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Originally Posted by kill.cactus
I really don't know what I would do... I mean on a bike it isn't like you could jump off or anything. I've always envisioned myself jumping onto the hood of a car and bracing my upper body for impact in the event of a collision when I am walking. On a bike... I don't know...