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    Drunk Driver Kills Webcor/Alto Velo Cyclist

    First Edition Cycling News for September 17, 2006
    Edited by Hedwig Kröner, Cyclingnews.com
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ep06/sep17news
    Webcor/Alto Velo rider killed

    Webcor/Alto Velo member and Category II racer, John Peckham, was killed on Friday, September 8, when a drunk driver crossed into his lane and collided with him head-on not far from the campus of Stanford University. The driver is currently in jail facing four felony accounts related to the death of John Peckham.

    John Peckham, a 31 year-old bio-medical engineer, started racing in 2005 and used his natural riding ability and an explosive sprint to move up to Webcor/Alto Velo's Elite Pro 1/2 squad. Known for his criterium skills, Peckham surprised many when he placed 13th at the Valley of the Sun Stage race last February as a Cat III, and second in his first Cat II race, the Menlo Park Grand Prix. Teammates, friends and family recall an intense, caring and supportive man who was passionate about cycling and racing.

    Peckham will be honoured with a memorial ride on Sunday, September 24. Details will be announced on Webcor/Alto Velo's website www.altovelo.org.

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    The Ferrari ('05 Bianchi Forza) had a flat (Stupid Glass) the Japanese wagon ('77 Nishiki with Arkel Utility Basket) was in the body shop (On my bench being repainted...repent ye rust)
    so I took the SUV ( Cannondale V2000 Active 100SL)

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    That sucks. I ride in that area from time to time.
    I see hills.... Bring them on!!!
    Stay calm and bring a towel.

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    Its absolutely horrible, and this guy will get out of jail one day, and end up getting his license back.

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    They first have to prove that he was drunk. He got out of his car and started drinking a 24 ounce beer immediately. Hopefully, a BAC will show that beer didn't have time to enter his system, if he was drunk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dchiefransom
    They first have to prove that he was drunk. He got out of his car and started drinking a 24 ounce beer immediately. Hopefully, a BAC will show that beer didn't have time to enter his system, if he was drunk.
    Wow. What an @$$hole.

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    Very sad news. My condolences to John Peckham's family and anyone who knew him.

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    The driver is currently in jail facing four felony accounts related to the death of............
    This is good. This should happen to the driver at fault in every case when their negligence causes a death or serious injury. Regardless of if alcohol is involved or not.

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    I have just lost another "good friend I never got to meet."

    I hope the D.A. can make the charges stick and get the perpetrator locked up for a goodly period of time. Perhaps some of our Bay Area BF members can identify the judge and monitor the case for all of us.
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    Its absolutely horrible, and this guy will get out of jail one day, and end up getting his license back.
    Maybe not so easy this time as, "Chevelle Bailey, 41, of Fremont, whose bail was increased to $2 million by a judge who said he himself had been hit while cycling". Unfortunately they'll the change the judge after staements like that.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...l/15506728.htm

    Anyways, Chevelle Bailey you have a confirmed kill. And every Sptember 8th he should get a free "Chevelle Bailey has a confirmed kill" t-shirt.

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    As cyclist's mother watches, driver denies killing her son
    By Linda Goldston, Mercury News, Posted on Wed, Sep. 13, 2006
    http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...l/15506728.htm

    Six days before John Peckham was fatally struck by a car while riding his bike, he and his mother went on a long ride, pedaling past the spot in the hills above Palo Alto where Peckham was killed Friday.

    Peckham had inspired his mother to take up cycling, and the two rode from Mountain View to Woodside on Sept. 2.

    ``I saw that little road where he was killed,'' his mother, Mary Ann Parker of St. Louis, said Tuesday after a court hearing for the man accused of killing her son, a 31-year-old from Mountain View.

    Parker also made sure she got a good look at Chevelle Bailey, 41, of Fremont, whose bail was increased to $2 million by a judge who said he himself had been hit while cycling. Bailey is facing four felony charges and a misdemeanor charge of possessing drug paraphernalia in connection with the death of Peckham.

    Parker moved from her seat in the middle of a row to the end seat when a bailiff escorted Bailey into the courtroom. He made a brief but noisy appearance in Santa Clara County Superior Court in Palo Alto.

    While his attorney, Gary Goodman, was trying to tell him what he was to be charged with, Bailey blurted out, ``I don't care what it is, I didn't do it.''

    His arraignment was continued until next Tuesday.

    Bailey, who faces a maximum of 26 years in prison, remains in custody in the Santa Clara County Jail in San Jose. Because he has a 1986 conviction for robbery, his case will be considered a second-strike case, which doubles the penalties. His current charges include driving under the influence, traveling at excessive speed, leaving the scene of an accident and being in possession of a methamphetamine pipe, said Supervising Deputy District Attorney Jay Boyarsky. Bailey also has a conviction from 1998 for driving under the influence.

    Boyarsky said a witness saw Bailey open and drink a beer right after the accident. His blood alcohol level in tests at the crash site was barely above the legal limit. Results of blood tests are pending.

    Shortly after raising Bailey's bail, Judge Doug Southard revealed his own ties to cycling.

    ``I have for most of my life been an avid bicyclist and have myself been run off the road with injuries,'' Southard said, adding that while he felt obligated to disclose that information he believed he could handle the case fairly.

    Southard denied Goodman's request to recuse himself. Goodman did not return a call from the Mercury News later in the day about whether he would appeal Southard's decision.

    In an interview punctuated by tears, Parker said she wanted to see Bailey in court. ``I had to see the person that killed my son. He would have wanted me to do that.''

    Peckham was a member of an elite cycling team that's part of the 400-member Webcor/Alto Velo Bicycle Racing Club. Last Friday, he was on a lunchtime training ride with other cyclists on Old Page Mill Road. Peckham had ridden a little ahead of the rest of the group when he was struck.

    ``One of the witnesses said he passed them going 90 mph,'' Boyarsky said of Bailey.

    Bailey allegedly continued driving up the road for a short bit before crashing down an embankment.

    ``One of the witnesses said to the suspect, `Are you OK?' '' Boyarsky said. ``He said, `Yes, give me a minute, I'll be right up.' '' Then, Boyarsky said, ``He grabbed a 24-ounce can of Coors.''

    Boyarsky said Bailey told another witness: ``I thought I was going to die, but I got out of the car like a soldier, cracked a beer and downed it.''

    Peckham and Parker, who had flown to the valley Sept. 1 for a visit, were to have had dinner with his girlfriend and her parents Friday night.

    ``About 3 p.m., Cindy and her mother pulled up and said, `We need to get to the hospital. John got hit,' '' Parker said.

    Parker immediately called Stanford Hospital. ``Can you tell me if he's alive?'' she asked repeatedly. She said she knew he was gone when the hospital would give her no information.

    When she arrived at Stanford, she said, she had to see her son's body.

    ``He was badly broken,'' she said. `The car was going upwards of 80 mph, I was told, and went right into him.''

    In some way, she said, seeing her son's battered body ``made me feel better, to know he couldn't have suffered much.''

    Peckham had just bought a condominium in Mountain View ``and was so proud of it,'' said Parker, who has been staying there. ``I look around at it and think, `He'll never be able to live here.' ''

    Visitation and farewell services will be held from 3 to 6 p.m. today at Spangler Mortuary in Mountain View. Peckham's cycling club is planning a memorial ride and will post details on its Web site, www.altovelo.org, when they are available.

    ``I will be on the memorial ride and probably cry the whole time,'' Parker said. ``I feel like I'm not in the same world that I was in on Friday morning. I will never be the same.''

    Contact Linda Goldston at lgoldston@mercurynews.com or (408) 920-5862.



    Fisher: Crazy drivers and bicyclists often show little judgment
    By Patty Fisher, Mercury News Posted on Wed, Sep. 13, 2006,
    http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...r/15506730.htm

    Cyclists tell me there's nothing like the freedom of riding on a country road, drinking in the scenery, powered only by your own muscles. I've watched their eyes light up when they describe the eerie quiet of a deserted mountain road, the breathtaking beauty of that first glimpse of the ocean, the exhilaration of zooming down a hill on the edge of control.

    I understand why people are drawn to cycling. It's fun, healthy and environmentally friendly. It's a great alternative to paying $3 for a gallon of gas.

    But it's also increasingly dangerous.

    Last week, John Peckham of Mountain View became the latest local cyclist to be killed on a country road. Peckham, a talented 31-year-old bike racer, was out for a training ride when police say a drunk driver hit him.

    In July, Thomas Maddox, a retired college professor from Portola Valley, died after a car hit him on Skyline Boulevard. And in June, Ron Gordon, a Palo Alto dentist, was killed by a truck while cycling in the Sierra foothills.

    Peckham's death was horrible and senseless. He was taking a noontime ride on Old Page Mill Road. It's not a place cyclists would expect much car traffic on a weekday. Peckham was guilty only of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    Considering how many thousands of people ride bikes on Bay Area roads in the post-Lance Armstrong era, perhaps we should expect the occasional fatality. Perhaps we should just accept that cycling is inherently dangerous and that people who ride assume a certain risk. After all, bikes and cars are competing for space on roads that weren't designed to accommodate both. Accidents happen. And when they do, cyclists invariably get the worse of it.

    And yet, cycling is going to continue to grow in popularity. People should be encouraged to leave their cars at home for the sake of the environment. And so we need to find ways to make the roads safer for bikes and cars. We need to find resources for more bike lanes, wider roads and better law enforcement. And all of us need to step back, slow down and remember that we don't own the road.

    Last month I wrote about efforts by folks in Woodside to limit organized bike rides through their town, and I'm still getting a steady stream of e-mails from readers. I've been told sickening tales of near-misses, of rudeness beyond belief. One guy said he was riding his bike near La Honda last weekend when someone driving a Prius shot at him with a pellet gun.

    There's a common denominator in all the stories I hear: lousy, oblivious drivers. On bikes and in cars.

    Having lived near the Palo Alto bike boulevard for 20 years, I can tell stories of my own. Like the other night, when a cyclist dressed in dark clothing, with no light on his bike, blew through a stop sign right in front of me. I came this close to hitting him.

    If I had, it would have been his fault, but I would have had to live with it.

    Some law enforcement agencies, including the Santa Clara County sheriff, are beginning to crack down on reckless cyclists. Perhaps that will improve safety. But there is something the rest of us can do.

    About 10 years ago when I was in, ahem, traffic school, the teacher made a point that's always stuck with me. She said: All drivers are doing the best they can at the time. Their best might not be very good -- they may be tired, distracted or just incompetent -- but it's all they can manage at that moment. So ranting at them isn't going to make them shape up; it's only going to distract them more and cause an accident.

    So stay out of their way, the teacher said. And try to forgive them.

    Next time you may be the one who needs forgiveness.

    Contact Patty Fisher at pfisher@mercurynews.com or (650) 688-7510.

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    Hi Helmet Head. I've replied to you before but this is the first time I'm doing it with a dead son mowed down by a user. Facts: My son was a CAT 2 who was recovering from an injury. He was on a training ride during the noon hour of 9/8/06. The guy that killed my son was drinking but didn't get to have that thrown at him because his blood alcohol level came in under 0.08 or whatever it is in CA. So legally, he wasn't drunk. So he wasnt' drunk but why was he going 90 mph on a very small section of a road that wasn't anything like a freeway? Because he was nuts? or because he was on meth? He was on meth. I don't know how it's going to turn out but the guy was toasted. I want you all to know this. This guy is getting away with murder if someone doesn't show up for my son at that courtroom. I will be there but there are some of you in the area that have nothing better to do that day. The day is October the 3rd at 9 a.m and the judge is Pincion, first name starts with an "R". Location is Superior Courts, Palo Alto, Califonia. Just Mapquest it. I'm sure you'll figure it out. Show up for him if you're there. Please, Please, Please??
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    I was very sorry to hear about your son's death, Mary Ann. I have to work on Tuesday, and can't get a day off. If there are other days when he's in court, my day off that week might coincide, and I could be there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnn
    Hi Helmet Head. I've replied to you before but this is the first time I'm doing it with a dead son mowed down by a user. Facts: My son was a CAT 2 who was recovering from an injury. He was on a training ride during the noon hour of 9/8/06. The guy that killed my son was drinking but didn't get to have that thrown at him because his blood alcohol level came in under 0.08 or whatever it is in CA. So legally, he wasn't drunk. So he wasnt' drunk but why was he going 90 mph on a very small section of a road that wasn't anything like a freeway? Because he was nuts? or because he was on meth? He was on meth. I don't know how it's going to turn out but the guy was toasted. I want you all to know this. This guy is getting away with murder if someone doesn't show up for my son at that courtroom. I will be there but there are some of you in the area that have nothing better to do that day. The day is October the 3rd at 9 a.m and the judge is Pincion, first name starts with an "R". Location is Superior Courts, Palo Alto, Califonia. Just Mapquest it. I'm sure you'll figure it out. Show up for him if you're there. Please, Please, Please??
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    I'll be with you in spirit, Mary Ann. Unfortunately, I can't make the 500 mile trek next week.

    Sounds like you got the right judge (at least he's a cyclist and not clueless about our perspective).

    I know you'd like to see him in jail, but in our system as I understand this, it is most likely a civil manner.

    Edit: What I meant by "it is most likely a civil manner", is that going after someone for wrongful death in civil court is how our system works, and that if the felony convictions don't put him behind bars for very long, they should be very helpful in the civil matter.
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    Mary Ann, I've been sitting here, trying to come up with some words that might help you. I can't. I think the best I can do is wish that I could take away the pain and bad feelings that you have. If I could, I would do it in a second. If I could be there, I would, but my bank account says no. If you want to email me I'll give you my phone#. Sort of a long-distance shoulder. In any case, I wish you all the love of cyclists all over.

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    I'm trying to follow the case, but can't find anything available on dates for the case. They apparently don't list the schedule for criminal hearings, or I'm not looking in the right spot. If I have a day off that coincides with a hearing, I'd like to be there.
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    I don't have a link, this was in my paper this morning. Yesterday in court the guy pleaded "No Contest" to vehiclular manslaughter, driving under the influence causing injury, and hit and run. The D. A. has said he'll push at sentencing for either the maximum or close to it. He could get anything from probation to 28 years in prison. He should be sentenced in January or February.
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    The following was on cyclingnews.com today:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ct06/oct26news

    First Edition Cycling News for October 26, 2006
    Edited by Sue George

    California man pleads no contest in death of cyclist

    Chevelle Baily, 41, entered a plea of no contest to vehicular manslaughter and two other felonies before a court in California. Baily was accused of killing a cyclist, 31-year-old John Peckham, while on a lunchtime group training ride in the hills of Palo Alto on September 8th. Peckham was struck by Baily's speeding car while riding ahead of the group. Bailey's no contest plea is the legal equivalent of a guilty plea.

    Baily could face 28 years and eight months in prison considering his prior DUI and robbery convictions. "This guy needs to be off the streets,'' Brian Petersen, president of the local cycling club, told the San Jose Mercury News outside of court.

    Baily also pleaded guilty to driving under the influence while causing injury and a hit and run charge. According to the court, Baily was under the influence of methamphetamine and alcohol when he struck Peckham while driving between 60 and 90 mph. Then Baily kept driving until he crashed his car down an embankment. Witnesses reported to police that Bailey opened a beer after the crash and allegedly said: "I thought I was going to die, but I got out of the car like soldier, cracked a beer and downed it.''

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    Up to 28 years? Wow. I'm happy to see I was wrong about calling this one!

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    I also found this today:

    http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/15842818.htm

    Driver guilty in cyclist death
    MAN PLEADS NO CONTEST TO MANSLAUGHTER
    By Howard Mintz, Mercury News, Posted on Wed, Oct. 25, 2006

    A Fremont man could face 28 years in prison after pleading no contest Tuesday to vehicular manslaughter and two other felonies for plowing his car into an avid bicyclist who was killed while on a lunchtime ride in the Palo Alto hills last month.

    With about a dozen members of the victim's bicycling club sitting in a Palo Alto courtroom, Chevelle Bailey, 41, entered his plea before Superior Court Judge Rise Jones Pichon. It was less than two months after he hit and killed 31-year-old John Peckham of Mountain View. Bailey's no contest plea is the legal equivalent of a guilty plea.

    Unlike during his first court appearance in September, Bailey, dressed in red jail garb, was quiet and kept his head bowed as the judge read off the conditions of his plea. Bailey was animated and blurted out ``I didn't do it'' at his arraignment. But Tuesday, he politely agreed to plead no contest to vehicular manslaughter, driving under the influence while causing injury and a hit-and-run charge.

    Court records allege that Bailey was high on methamphetamine and alcohol when his car hit Peckham on Old Page Mill Road at an estimated 60 to 90 mph.

    The plea offered some satisfaction to members of the Webcor/Alto Velo Bicycle Racing Club who attended the hearing, but they want stiff punishment for Bailey.

    ``This guy needs to be off the streets,'' Brian Petersen, president of the cycling club, said outside court.

    Mark Sanford, whose daughter, Cindy, had been living with Peckham and dating him for nearly a year, also attended the hearing. He plans to speak out for a long prison term when Bailey is sentenced in January or February.

    ``He's a menace to society, and the families don't want to see him again,'' Sanford said after the hearing.

    Gary Goodman, Bailey's attorney, could not be reached for comment on why his client decided to plead no contest.

    Supervising Deputy District Attorney Jay Boyarsky said he would seek the maximum sentence or close to it. Bailey, who has a robbery conviction and a DUI on his record, faces a sentence ranging from probation to 28 years and eight months in prison.

    ``The evidence against Mr. Bailey is strong,'' Boyarsky said. ``The best thing Mr. Bailey could have done is accept responsibility as soon as possible.''

    Peckham was on a training ride with other club members Sept. 8 when he ventured a little ahead of the group and was hit by Bailey. Court records show that Bailey continued driving before crashing the car he was driving down an embankment.

    Witnesses told police that Bailey opened a beer after the crash and said: ``I thought I was going to die, but I got out of the car like a soldier, cracked a beer and downed it.''

    Members of Peckham's bicycling club have been grieving since the crash. The club recently held a memorial ride for the elite member that ended at the site of his death. Hundreds of cyclists took part in the silent ride -- and some were in court Tuesday.

    ``We're here to show support for John's memory,'' Kevin Susco said.

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    Contact Howard Mintz at hmintz@mercurynews.com or (408) 286-0236.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helmet Head
    Up to 28 years? Wow. I'm happy to see I was wrong about calling this one!
    You're not wrong yet.

    Let's wait until he is actually sentenced. He might just get 3 months in a rehab and then probation.

    I really hope not. I would like to see him get the maximum.

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    The prosecutor has stated they intend to ask for the max. Nice change of pace from the usual treatment of drivers who kill cyclists.

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    Palo Alto sure seems like a dangerous place to ride these days...


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    Quote Originally Posted by randya
    Palo Alto sure seems like a dangerous place to ride these days...

    Yeah it is.
    I see hills.... Bring them on!!!
    Stay calm and bring a towel.

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