Washington vs. Oregon traffic responsible for bike deaths
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Washington vs. Oregon traffic responsible for bike deaths
this video says Washington has almost half the cycling deaths as Oregon because Washington has more state troopers primarily focused on traffic.
https://www.katu.com/home/video/39145...?video=pop&t=a
https://www.katu.com/home/video/39145...?video=pop&t=a
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Originally Posted by Xrisnothing
People in Oregon can't be trusted to fill their own gas tanks, forget actually operating the vehicle safely.
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Originally Posted by mlh122
this video says Washington has almost half the cycling deaths as Oregon because Washington has more state troopers primarily focused on traffic.
https://www.katu.com/home/video/39145...?video=pop&t=a
https://www.katu.com/home/video/39145...?video=pop&t=a
I guess Seattle might have a few more cyclists, but I have a hard time imagining it would be a match for Portland!
On the bright side, the bike thieves are confoundingly stupid here. (knock on wood) I've got a couple of stupid bike thief stories that defy comprehension.
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Originally Posted by KnhoJ
On the bright side, the bike thieves are confoundingly stupid here. (knock on wood) I've got a couple of stupid bike thief stories that defy comprehension.
I'm intrigued.
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Originally Posted by Xrisnothing
People in Oregon can't be trusted to fill their own gas tanks, forget actually operating the vehicle safely.
seeing as oregon has the nations best drivers, according to a recent study, I think you need to shut your mouth.
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Study shmudy. Tired of studies.
Anyhow, I do not believe that would be the best item to brag about.The best of the worst so to speak. The US is a nation filled with horrible drivers. Of course, many nations are worse.
Anyhow, I do not believe that would be the best item to brag about.The best of the worst so to speak. The US is a nation filled with horrible drivers. Of course, many nations are worse.
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Originally Posted by DataJunkie
Study shmudy. Tired of studies.
Anyhow, I do not believe that would be the best item to brag about.The best of the worst so to speak. The US is a nation filled with horrible drivers. Of course, many nations are worse.
Anyhow, I do not believe that would be the best item to brag about.The best of the worst so to speak. The US is a nation filled with horrible drivers. Of course, many nations are worse.
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Originally Posted by randya
I seriously doubt this.
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I lived the first 25 years of my life in Washington state and I also delivered blood in Oregon. Both have positively horrible drivers. Colorado has even worse drivers.
I have never traveled to a state and remarked "this state has wonderful drivers". Every state I have visited has varying degrees of inattentive drivers. The best out of the worst is North Dakota simply for the fact that it is virtually devoid of human life. IMHO
I have never traveled to a state and remarked "this state has wonderful drivers". Every state I have visited has varying degrees of inattentive drivers. The best out of the worst is North Dakota simply for the fact that it is virtually devoid of human life. IMHO
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Originally Posted by Brian Ratliff
I think I agree with you. The best drivers I've seen were in LA, ironically. Now, if you measure "best" by "follow the rules" then yes, perhaps Oregon has the "best" drivers. But by skill level? Perhaps not.
I donno... having just driven down the coast from Oregon through CA... Oregon drivers displayed better use of the road... consistently keeping to the right unless passing. CA drivers however tended to stick to whatever lane they were in... did not use turn signals, and tended to not leave decent following distance.
If your "best drivers" are evaluated by the amount of pavement they have to pilot... then perhaps LA does have "the best... " but if you evaluate on "driving friendly," then Oregon gets my vote. Of course recall that some LA drivers use "gunshots" vice "turn signals;" that rather negatively slants my vote.
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Oregon drivers are courtious, no doubt. I just have doubts about our skill level. When I was driving in CA (though it was brief), yes, they were more agressive, but they were smoother and seemed to be more skilled at piloting their vehicle.
WA drivers are pretty bad; and I've driven there quite a bit. While CA drivers are agressive but skilled and OR drivers tend to be non-agressive but lacking in skill; WA drivers tend to be agressive and lacking in skill - the worst of both worlds. Kind of scary sometimes, driving down from Seattle to Portland on I-5.
WA drivers are pretty bad; and I've driven there quite a bit. While CA drivers are agressive but skilled and OR drivers tend to be non-agressive but lacking in skill; WA drivers tend to be agressive and lacking in skill - the worst of both worlds. Kind of scary sometimes, driving down from Seattle to Portland on I-5.
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Originally Posted by Brian Ratliff
WA drivers are pretty bad; and I've driven there quite a bit. While CA drivers are agressive but skilled and OR drivers tend to be non-agressive but lacking in skill; WA drivers tend to be agressive and lacking in skill - the worst of both worlds. Kind of scary sometimes, driving down from Seattle to Portland on I-5.
You have a point about CA drivers... but I would love to see a "bit of love" put back into their driving. Courtesy folks... simple courtesy.
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Originally Posted by wild animals
where are there proportionally more motor-vehicle accidents? anybody know?
If you want to see my data https://www.bikeforums.net/advocacy-safety/220373-state-fatality-crash-comparison.html
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Best Drivers
Spokane, WA---- #38
Vancouver, WA----#55
Salem, OR----#67
Portland,OR----#89
Tacoma, WA----#151
Seattle, WA----#165
Take yer pick
Spokane, WA---- #38
Vancouver, WA----#55
Salem, OR----#67
Portland,OR----#89
Tacoma, WA----#151
Seattle, WA----#165
Take yer pick
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hey, i'm in columbia county too!
thanks, the human car. if i go to wyoming i guess i'll ride my bike.
thanks, the human car. if i go to wyoming i guess i'll ride my bike.
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If Washingtonians are such great drivers, it's obvious that Portland is the place they visit to take a vacation from all those excellent skills they have.
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Originally Posted by Flamingmb
seeing as oregon has the nations best drivers, according to a recent study, I think you need to shut your mouth.
I've driven in six countries and at least as many states. Oregonians are some of the worst. They're passive aggressive, love to snooze in the left lane, get angry when you use your left turn signal to wake them up, and drop 10 or more mph when approaching a bridge (OMG IT'S WATER!!!). And those are just a few examples.
Cheers.