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Old 09-19-06, 05:55 AM   #1
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Honked at, then buzzed, then apologized to !

This morning a cager honked and buzzed me... I caught up to him at the next light... I power weaved in front of him and just blocked him ... I was right next to a police officer so I felt he might not do anything...... so I slowly moved over to the drivers side and he pulled his window down and I told him to share the road because he hoked and buzzed me and could have knocked me off the road... he had a little kid with him in the front drivers seat... I pulled out my cell phone and I told him I'll call the cops... He said he was sorry and gave me some lame excuse about a lady next to him that didnt give him room to move over.... so I said to him ... " couldn't you slow down for 5 seconds instead of almost killing me ? " ... he then said he was sorry... I accepted his apology and went on my way.

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Old 09-19-06, 06:45 AM   #2
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Talk about a almost responsible motorist experience
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Old 09-19-06, 06:51 AM   #3
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You should of neck punched him!

I like beating up dads in front of their sons.

That ***** lasts for generations.
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Old 09-19-06, 08:42 AM   #4
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You should of neck punched him!

I like beating up dads in front of their sons.

That ***** lasts for generations.
Yes, certainly does!! Like when the kid grows into a dumb drunken brute and uses his fists and an empty PBR bottle to solve life problems, in front of his kids...
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Old 09-19-06, 12:38 PM   #5
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Good for you. You also could have said, "How would you like it if someone did to your son as he was riding his bicycle, what you just did to me?"
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+1 for the parental guilt approach!
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Not all car drivers are morons.

The one and only time I've nearly had an accident involving a bike was when a cyclist pulled out straight in front of my car. The road in question has a long, sweeping curve and from a good distance back I could see him waiting at the junction. This was in heavy traffic. I noticed that he kept looking in the opposite direction to where I was coming from, so dropped my speed - I just had a feeling you know. Anyway, as I approached the junction he'd obviously seen a gap in the traffic coming the other way and suddenly shot out and right across my car. I slammed on the brakes. He was so close, he put his hand down on the bonnet (hood) of my car The colour just drained out of his face. I wound down the window, asked him if he had a death wish and was he OK? He said he'd just seen a gap in the traffic coming the opposite way and just plain hadn't checked to see what was coming the other way. He said he wouldn't ever do that again. Poor bloke got such a scare. Just a moment of carelessness and he could have been a goner had I not been observant (or someone else).

I've been driving for over 30 years. I had a very good instructor and was taught to think bike from the very first time I sat in the driver's seat. That has always stayed with me.

I do believe that every would-be motorist should have to:

1) Ride a bicycle for a set period of time

2) Learn to ride a motorbike

before being allowed to learn to drive. I think doing this would cut the accident rate involving bikes dramatically.
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Old 09-20-06, 05:36 AM   #8
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I do believe that every would-be motorist should have to:

1) Ride a bicycle for a set period of time

2) Learn to ride a motorbike

before being allowed to learn to drive. I think doing this would cut the accident rate involving bikes dramatically.
I agree with #1 but disagree with #2. This year I thought it would be great to learn to ride a motorcycle so I signed up for training (classroom and hands on). Classroom was a piece of cake. Hands on was something else. Everything was so foreign. Instead of brakes on the handlebars you have a brake, a clutch and throttle. Rather than shifters on the handlebars you have it on your left foot. Then you have your rear brake on your right foot. I thought already being a cyclist would be an advantage, but it was a huge disadvantage as I needed to think about where the controls were rather than reacting. I felt I was an accident waiting to happen. Maybe more time would have helped, but I don't think you can be an effective cyclist and motorcyclist at the same time because it is all about response time and reaction time. I'm sure there are plenty of folks that can do both, but not me. I'll stick to my bicycle.
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You've guessed it. I ride a motorbike too. I have a Kawasaki Eliminator.

I learnt to cycle first as a child, then learned to drive. I took one driving lesson every week for a year and passed my test first time. That was in 1975. To date, I haven't caused an accident, and hope I never do.

I was 38 when I learned to ride a motorcycle and now, 50 this year I'm back on a bicycle as my husband is using the family car for work (he's a sales rep and has to travel around), the job I do the motorbike is impractical for but the bicycle is perfect I do door to door catalogue sales. Basically, I pop catalogues through peoples' doors, pick them up (hopefully with orders) two days later and process the orders. The only thing I need the car for are the deliveries which we do at the weekend on my husband's days off. The result is, I can do my catalogue rounds quicker by bike as many of my customers live where there are only paths, no roads and all my business is conducted within a 4 mile radius - most linked with cycle paths so not only is it quicker but cheaper as I don't have to buy fuel (just tank myself up when I come back with a lovely cup of coffee ) and it's healthier too

I don't find a problem switching between bicycle and motorbike. You do learn very quickly to switch between the two and both become second-nature. When I took motorbike lessons some years ago, it was one of the first things the instructors told us about. If you ride a bicycle, although a motorbike is a two-wheeled vehicle, it is totally, completely different to riding a bicycle.

I have three different perspectives of the road - from my bicycle, from my motorbike and from the car. Two pieces of advice that have kept me safe all these years is one my late father gave me - "Always keep two jumps ahead of the traffic" - in other words anticipate what might happen and keep observance at all times (I think it's called reading the road and conditions properly) and "If in doubt - don't". It's advice I've passed on to many people.
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My experience.

narrow, 2 lane road, gravel shoulder. Riding about 22mph in a 35 zone. Cars stacking up behind me because a girl would not pass. I waved her by twice as I knew there was enough room. She finally goes by. The next car had two older folks in it who proceeded to honk the horn, yell and shake their fists at me. I caught him at the light. A real long light. We started off yelling but he conceded that I had a right to be on the road. He apologized when he found out that I had waved the slow car to pass twice. We ended with a handshake. There was a cop two cars back presumably watching the whole encounter.

I've noticed, especially when gas is very high that I get no honks or gestures when riding on the road.
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This morning a cager honked and buzzed me... I caught up to him at the next light... I power weaved in front of him and just blocked him ... I was right next to a police officer so I felt he might not do anything...... so I slowly moved over to the drivers side and he pulled his window down and I told him to share the road because he hoked and buzzed me and could have knocked me off the road... he had a little kid with him in the front drivers seat... I pulled out my cell phone and I told him I'll call the cops... He said he was sorry and gave me some lame excuse about a lady next to him that didnt give him room to move over.... so I said to him ... " couldn't you slow down for 5 seconds instead of almost killing me ? " ... he then said he was sorry... I accepted his apology and went on my way.

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Gads rough day...WHat is POWER-WEAVE?
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