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    What is Power Weave?

    What is Power Weave? Sounds dangerous .... Please explain

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    The power weave is the art of driving at least 20 mph faster than the cars around you by weaving in and out of lanes, constantly seeking daylight and avoiding slow-moving obstructions. The power weave requires a car with a hair trigger on the accelerator and the ability to swing laterally in the blink of an eye.

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    Om gosh, I thought you were kidding. I found that exact definition here!

    http://www.outerlife.com/2004/11/power_weave.html

    Guess it's another Safety forum buzz word to make bicyling sound technical.

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    All right then, here is one I didn’t paste from the internet.

    A power weave is the special toupee you wear on the days you have an important board meeting.

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    I thought it was some carbon composite technology to transfer power better... thank god I was wrong and it is actually people driving dangerously on the roads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vrkelley
    Sounds dangerous ....
    It all depends on how it's done.

    If the "power weave" is done tongue-in-cheek (which it often is), it can hurt if you hit a bump (if you have teeth).

    I do a power weave based on DLLP (Dynamic Lateral Lane Positioning).
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWind
    All right then, here is one I didnít paste from the internet.

    A power weave is the special toupee you wear on the days you have an important board meeting.
    no paste needed

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWind
    The power weave is the art of driving at least 20 mph faster than the cars around you by weaving in and out of lanes, constantly seeking daylight and avoiding slow-moving obstructions. The power weave requires a car with a hair trigger on the accelerator and the ability to swing laterally in the blink of an eye.
    of course at the end of that description, is this honest phrase:

    Power weavers -- even the masters -- are idiots for risking so much for so little, if you think about it, but then who among us is perfect?

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    Some people refer to DLLP as "Powerweave". Usually it indicates they don't get what I mean by DLLP. See the What is DLLP thread for what I do mean by it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRA
    It all depends on how it's done.

    If the "power weave" is done tongue-in-cheek (which it often is), it can hurt if you hit a bump (if you have teeth).

    I do a power weave based on DLLP (Dynamic Lateral Lane Positioning).
    Usually we say 'power' and 'dynamic' to describe something awesome stuff. Didn't realize it required dental work afterwards

    Actually, I thought it was some sort of lycra stretch stuff. When I did the first search only a stove pipe link showed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helmet Head
    DLLP stands for Dynamic Lateral Lane Positioning. I made it up. The name is to contrast with what most cyclists seem to practice: "static lateral lane positioning". In particular, they seem to ride a fixed distance from the edge of the road, no matter what the factors or conditions (with some exceptions of course, but that's the basic description of what they do).
    I do this, that is, I dynamically position myself based on changing road conditions and traffic circumstances. But I don't maintain a basic centerish lane position, as described here, unless I'm in a narrow lane, or for other exceptions:

    Quote Originally Posted by Helmet Head
    DLLP is simply my take on John Franklin's (author of the book Cyclecraft, see http://cyclecraft.co.ok) "primary riding position" methodology. He recommends cyclists ride in the center of the lane, unless they have a good reason to temporarily move into the "secondary riding position" (off to the side to allow faster traffic to pass), rather than vice versa.
    When riding in a wide rightmost lane, I tend to share the lane with faster moving traffic by keeping in the rightmost 1/3 of the lane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vrkelley
    What is Power Weave? Sounds dangerous .... Please explain
    It's nothing, really. Other than something somebody made up to criticize a cycling technique that does not affirm their own.

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBigMan
    I do this, that is, I dynamically position myself based on changing road conditions and traffic circumstances. But I don't maintain a basic centerish lane position, as described here, unless I'm in a narrow lane, or for other exceptions:
    I do this too, but very few of the roads around here are not sub-standardly narrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBigMan
    When riding in a wide rightmost lane, I tend to share the lane with faster moving traffic by keeping in the rightmost 1/3 of the lane.
    I keep at least the right 1/2 of the right lane, but like I said, most of these are narrow lanes.
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    Basketry is the weaving of unspun vegetable fibers, usually to form a container. Baskets have been made from any wood, vine, leaf, or fiber that could be formed into a desirable shape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R-Wells
    Basketry is the weaving of unspun vegetable fibers, usually to form a container. Baskets have been made from any wood, vine, leaf, or fiber that could be formed into a desirable shape.

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    I'm a powerweaving TERROR.

    I thought "powerweave" was the skill and art of motorpacing traffic, riding multiple lanes of roadway, dodging and weaving with dense, fast-paced urban traffic. traffic signal sprints and the like; controlling a lane, moving to another, weaving back and again to get ahead of all other traffic in your path.


    isn't THAT the "powerweave?" i think it's a more advanced technique than the "powerSWERVE"- which actually IS a hazardous way to ride a bike- of helemts' dynamic lane positioning BLT's or whatever he's calling it nowadays....

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    I thought power weave was when you weave back in forth in your lane while on your bike to piss off the ******* driver behind you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helmet Head
    Some people refer to DLLP as "Powerweave". Usually it indicates they don't get what I mean by DLLP. See the What is DLLP thread for what I do mean by it.
    Yes. Let's not confuse one completely arbitrary definition with another. Everyone knows that HH's completely arbitrary definition is more valuable because it uses bigger words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falkon
    I thought power weave was when you weave back in forth in your lane while on your bike to piss off the ******* driver behind you.
    Yep I remember that. It was a 90's low tech term to "get drivers attention" You were supposed to ride like you were drunk to increase vis.

    Another 'cute' theory that died (along with a few cyclists). After many, many bike-car accidents the power weave theory faded
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    I think this is a power weave:
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    Scary picture!

    Driving down whatever highway it is between Las Vegas and LA 12 months ago, a new silver Mercedes Benz power-weaved through what was quite a dense double line of traffic. Fine, scared the daylights out of me. Two seconds later, it was followed by a new silver BMW. Power-weaving. Race-weaving. An hour later the traffic slowed to a crawl, then a stop. A major accident 5km down the road (this on a road with both lanes going in the same direction...). Helicopters, ambulances, police cars, the lot. Plus about 500 bystanders. Nasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vrkelley
    What is Power Weave? Sounds dangerous .... Please explain
    It's a sort of irregular motion made by PowerTools.

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    Power Weaving motorists are a threat to all of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan
    Scary picture!

    Driving down whatever highway it is between Las Vegas and LA 12 months ago, a new silver Mercedes Benz power-weaved through what was quite a dense double line of traffic. Fine, scared the daylights out of me. Two seconds later, it was followed by a new silver BMW. Power-weaving. Race-weaving. An hour later the traffic slowed to a crawl, then a stop. A major accident 5km down the road (this on a road with both lanes going in the same direction...). Helicopters, ambulances, police cars, the lot. Plus about 500 bystanders. Nasty.
    Most likely the drivers were carporters tranporting cars from one dealer to another, hence the two new vehicles of the same make. These drivers are often young and reckless, having fun with high powered cars they could never afford. I've seen it several times.
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    I have NO IDEA what helmet head bases his PW on, but here's a traffic weave as far as i can tell:

    "powerweave" : the skill and art of motorpacing traffic, riding multiple lanes of roadway, dodging and weaving with dense, fast-paced urban traffic. Running traffic signal sprints off the stops; controlling a lane, moving to another, weaving back and again to get ahead of all other traffic in your path.

    i DO remember the 'ride like a drunk' theory being advanced a while back...is helemt heds DLLP- BLT powerweave the "drunken biker"? that was a crock! I have enough of a good time riding drunk at night already!

    hey, ya got to pass the cars, pass the cars, pass the cars.
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