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Old 09-25-06, 09:47 AM   #1
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Anyone else had anything similar happen? I'm riding down the street in Philadelphia today, near the Chinatown prison, and an SUV rolls up along side me. The woman driving yelled out the window at me, "You are not to be in the road!" and then called me a few nasty names. The interesting part was, she was wearing a Department of Corrections uniform. This is the second time I've had trouble on the road with a DOC employee in uniform. I got the tag number of her vehicle, think it is worth my time to write the PA DOC?
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You're not an escapee are you? If so that would explain everything.
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You're not an escapee are you? If so that would explain everything.
Ha ha, no. Never been in prison or arrested and in this state I've never even gotten a traffic ticket.
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Ha ha, no. Never been in prison or arrested and in this state I've never even gotten a traffic ticket.
In that state? What state have you been arrested in & are you an escapee from another state? How much is the bounty?
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WHile riding on a divided city street, two lanes each way with a parking lane, I was riding the right edge of the right lane because the parking lane was an absolute mine field. THe pavement was all broken up, unsafe to ride. As I'm riding along, a guy in a pickup truck pulls along side, blowing his horn, yelling at me, and flashing what I guess was a badge. He litterally drove me off the road, getting out and hollering more about me riding in traffic when there was a parking lane to ride. I gave him a piece of my mind and if it happened now, I would get his badge number for sure. It was not a good scene.

Thankfully it's only happened once (so far).

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I would first check the law and see if there are any prohibitions on riding in that area. Second, if there are no laws against riding there, send a copy of the law. Regardless, report her anyway for the language.
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Is it possible to request a marked car with a uniformed police officer to come to the scene?
This would relate to my current response to annoyed motorists. "If you are some damned certain that I belong on the sidewalk, call the police. Otherwise, leave me alone."
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I would have laughed in her face tbh. If someone tried that here (where you can ride anyplace you want unless it is a limited access freeway) they would be sooooo wrong and watching her blow a few fuses would be highly amusing.

Regarding your case: report her for abuse of power and foul language. She has NO right to act like that, and is totally out of her jurisdiction anyways (unless you were riding on a road through a jail that she happens to work at.....). She sounds like a rent a cop with cop envy.
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Always carry a cell phone, you never know when it may come in handy. As this has happened to you twice, I'd take a guess that it will happen again. Do as tomcryar advised and check you state and local laws.

I don't know what the law is in PA, but in MA, corrections officers have no law enforcement authority, outside of the prison system to where they're assigned. This woman sounds like she has some serious issues.

Since you have a plate number, and day/time of the incidents, I'd be tempted to consult with an attorney. You are being harassed. Have you talked to any other cyclists who ride in this area?
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At this point, if you did not call the police at the time of the incident, you may have trouble getting them to even listen to you.


Just recently an old man smoked a stop sign just a few feet from where I was about to cross.. I caught up to him and just shortly after trying to tell him what he did, he reached for something in his glovebox... I didn't stick around long enough to find out what it was but I managed to snap a shot of his plate... I called the police the next day and they didnt even pay any mind .....

If I would have called them right then and there, I may have had better results....

Ohh well...
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I'm riding down the street in Philadelphia today, near the Chinatown prison,
Where/What is the Chinatown prison in Philadelphia? Never heard of it.
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I meant I've received a traffic ticket in another state, when I was a teenage, but never in this state. I've never had any other legal trouble.

I did not report this to the police, but when I've reported things to the police in the past I've usually been blown off. They'll write up a report, but that's as far as it goes. Philly is a big town, and they don't have time to deal with small things. I was involved in a hit and run (in my car) a year ago, and I even had the plate number of the guy who hit me, and no charges were ever filed against him. I can't really blame the police, there is a lot of crime here, they have to prioritize.

This is in downtown Philadelphia, and I ride this street every day to go to work. I've never had trouble on it before. I am definately allowed in the street, there are "share the road" signs all over, and you can get a ticket for riding on the sidewalk. It is a one-way two lane road (Race Street, if you are familiar with Philly), and I was in the right lane. There was very little traffic, I think she was probably just ticked that she had to change lanes to go around me.
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Yeah, report her. It may be after the fact, but it takes time to find proper contact numbers
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she was wearing a Department of Corrections uniform

There is less than 1* of separation between the inmates and the jailers....
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It is a one-way two lane road (Race Street, if you are familiar with Philly), and I was in the right lane.
I know Race Street well. My father used to own a small warehouse at 2nd and Race, before the area was gentrified. I still don't know where the Chinatown prison is; only the Chinese restaurants, shops and church.
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........I got the tag number of her vehicle, think it is worth my time to write the PA DOC?
If there's nothing illegal about what you were doing, I would.
Never know where it might lead. Conceivably, she could wind up looking for a new line of work if higher finds out she's been harassing civilians while in uniform.
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Conceivably, she could wind up looking for a new line of work if higher finds out she's been harassing civilians while in uniform.
Very true. She's supposed to be saving that energy for beating inmates.
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I would first check the law and see if there are any prohibitions on riding in that area. Second, if there are no laws against riding there, send a copy of the law. Regardless, report her anyway for the language.
And include pamphlets from Jenny Craig or Weight Watchers along with relatively well-priced road-bikes. It sounds as if you'd be doing her a favour.
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A couple of years ago I had what I thought was an unmarked police car with a female officer inside yell at me to get off the road while I was in a left turn lane and she proceed to pass me on the right lane and then turn left, cutting me off. When I caught up with her at the train crossing I found out she was a correctional officer. There has to be a way to keep these people who look like cops from harassing people. I finally located a good lawyer next time that happens she’s going to be in court.

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Anyone else had anything similar happen? I'm riding down the street in Philadelphia today, near the Chinatown prison, and an SUV rolls up along side me. The woman driving yelled out the window at me, "You are not to be in the road!" and then called me a few nasty names. The interesting part was, she was wearing a Department of Corrections uniform. This is the second time I've had trouble on the road with a DOC employee in uniform. I got the tag number of her vehicle, think it is worth my time to write the PA DOC?

I'm pretty sure that the prison you're talking about (7th & Arch?) is a Federal prison, not a state prison.
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And include pamphlets from Jenny Craig or Weight Watchers along with relatively well-priced road-bikes. It sounds as if you'd be doing her a favour.
Yes! And maybe a couple pamphlets from the local clinic on anger management.
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Yes! And maybe a couple pamphlets from the local clinic on anger management.
IMO some posters have a very low threshold for considering themselves "accosted"; also a very low threshold for wanting to go running to the police or someone else's boss to make a complaint about an insignificant slight.
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IMO some posters have a very low threshold for considering themselves "accosted"; also a very low threshold for wanting to go running to the police or someone else's boss to make a complaint about an insignificant slight.
Perhaps, but I think there is a difference between some random idiot telling you to get on the sidewalk, and someone dressed up like law enforcement telling you to get on the sidewalk.
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Perhaps, but I think there is a difference between some random idiot telling you to get on the sidewalk, and someone dressed up like law enforcement telling you to get on the sidewalk.
Exactly. I wouldn't even consider reporting a random person, or probably even a professional driver, for spouting wrong idiocy like this, because what the heck?

But in cases as reported here where a cop or a cop look-alike is spreading wrong info, I'd certainly contact their station and try to get them corrected before they spread their lies to anyone who might believe them.
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A couple of years ago I had what I thought was an unmarked police car with a female officer inside yell at me to get off the road while I was in a left turn lane and she proceed to pass me on the right lane and then turn left, cutting me off. When I caught up with her at the train crossing I found out she was a correctional officer. There has to be a way to keep these people who look like cops from harassing people. I finally located a good lawyer next time that happens she’s going to be in court.

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An even better idea would be to get rid of uniforms that look like cops from people who are not cops....
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